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Won't boot I hhave an IBM K11 2.4 Ghz and I replaced the hard drive with a 320gig. It booted fine, twice. I put the cover on and now all I get is the IBM logo screen and a message saying system is starting. That is as far as it will go. I checked all of the cables and wires and all are ok. I reinstalled the old hard drive still the same. I replaced the cmos battery, still the same. HELP! tim

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  • tnbrennan Nov 01, 2008

    The drives are detected. Another thing I failed to mention is that the floppy drive light stays on. The data cable is properly connected.




  • tnbrennan Nov 01, 2008

    I have moved the cables in ever possible position and still get the same screen. I changed the jumper settings on all the drives to all possible settings, reconnected and still get the same screen.

  • tnbrennan Nov 01, 2008

    I cloned the hard drive. It booted twice fine. I opened Word, keyed in my wep, and got on the net. I put the cover on, moved it, then it would not boot. I bought all new data cables. I still get the IBM logo screen and the message "system starting" and that is as far as it will go.

    Tim


  • tnbrennan Nov 02, 2008

    I disconnected the hard drive and I still get the same screen. Why doesn't it say no operating system? Does that mean I have a bios problem?

    tim


  • tnbrennan Nov 02, 2008

    I still cannot get past the system starting screen.
    tim

  • tnbrennan Nov 02, 2008

    I am using separate cables for the dvd and hard drive. I disconnected the floppy all together. The hard drive port on the mb has a slot that allows the ridges on the cable only to go one way.

    tim


  • tnbrennan Nov 02, 2008

    On this mb the hard drive port is red. The power supply port is to the right of the hard drive port. Shouldn't the red stripe on the cable be closest to the power port? Does IBM have proprietary data cables?

    tim




  • tnbrennan Nov 02, 2008

    IBM k11 won't boot up.

  • tnbrennan Nov 02, 2008

    Ekse,

    I removed the floppy altogether.

    tim


  • tnbrennan Nov 02, 2008

    Ekse,

    Removed the floppy altogether.

    tim

  • tnbrennan Nov 02, 2008

    I re-installed the old hard drive and I still get the "system starting screen".

    tim


  • tnbrennan Nov 05, 2008

    I still cannot get past the IBM logo screen. The message says,"system starting... to nterrupt normal start up press enter"
    Help
    tim

  • tnbrennan Nov 05, 2008

    I have done all of this at one point or another. I have not re-installed the bios. How do I do that. I did not get any system discs with the computer. What do I need to go to the IBM web site to get a copy of the bios? The only info on the board is the revision #.

    tim


  • tnbrennan Nov 05, 2008

    It must freeze after system ram check because I can watch it go through that.

    tim


  • tnbrennan Nov 06, 2008

    I guess I am down to taking the pc into the shop. Help p l e a s e.

    tim


  • tnbrennan Nov 06, 2008

    The computer stops after ram check. How do I reload the bios? What info do I need to get a copy of the original bios?

    tim

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Hi Reset the memory and reset the Bios taking out the jumper on the motherboard.

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The easiest way to get the info from your hard drive if your Mboard is faulty is to take out the hard drive and transfer it to you wifes computer. 
This is a relatively simple procedure you can do yourself. 
Make sure you earth yourself down to disscharge any static by touching the metal part of the caseing on your computer before you strip it down and while its still pluged into the wall socket 

Remove the side of the computer case and locate the hard drive. 
The hard drive will have two cables attached one the power lead and the other the IDE ribbon these just pull off the back and the IDE ribbon is normay keyed so you cant get it wrong. If it is not keyed notice the ribbon has a red edge and notice which way round it is to so when you install it back you dont get it wrong. 
Once the leads are removed, remove the four screws that hold the hard drive to the case. 

Some cases have a cage that is held in by a screw that once removed slides out to enable easy replacement of the hard drive others have sliders to aid removal. Sometimes this requires removal of the front panel as the holding screw for the cage might be located under it. 

The front panel usualy is cliped on be carefull not to break any clips. You can usually see then from inside the computer with the side panels removed. 

Once you have removed the hard drive set the jumper on the rear of the drive to Slave. 
(Do not touch the printed circuit board that will be visible on the hard drive) 

Reboot and once it is rebooted windows will recognize the drive and might say the hardware is installed but might require a reboot before it works properly. 

Reboot and you should have access to all your documents. 

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This might help you to trim down what is the cause of it.

Plug-out all the drives from the motherboard (plug out the cable that connected to motherboard, not the cable connected to drives). I mean all driver includes your newly installed Hard Drive, Floppy Drive, CD/DVD ROM, Any USB Flash Disk, etc. So now your motherboard only connected to your monitor, power supply and input device (keyboard/mouse).

Turn on your computer and press F10, F2, F1, Del or whatever your system said to enter BIOS Setup.
Once you got into BIOS, reset all settings to default, save and exit bios setup.

Now turn your computer back on and see if it can get pass the "system starting ...." message.

If you manage to pass the message, the problem is with one of the drives.
Try connecting the new Hard Drive first and followed by CD/DVD and Floppy, check what cause your system to failed. Here you should be able to source the problem.

Hope it helps.

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Reset the memory and reset the Bios taking out the jumper on the motherboard. Removing the CMOS battery does not any change if you don't remove first the jumper.
Be sure that your bios is reading your HD hard drive.

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If all else fails and the OS repair did not work, you may want to under go reformatting then reinstalling the OS in your computer.

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This often happens either because of a bad pin, or because one of the harddrive jammed the bios, it would be useful knowing if it freezes during post (BIOS/Hardware problem) or after (System/RAM)

If it stops during post, or immediately after, before loading Windows:

Do a hard reset by unplugging power cord.

Do a CMOS reset, by removing the battery on motherboard.

Test using a different IDE or Sata cable.

Check Pins on hard disk connectors (IDE only) both on motherboard side and or disk side.

If that does not work, you need to reinstall bios.


If it stops when loading windows:

Try removing alternatively one of the RAM modules, test different RAM.

Reinstall the system, system is corrupted on both disks, that happens when you swap disks with system already installed. The system tries to install drivers after swapping disks, and it gets in troubles.

Let me know how it goes.

Posted on Nov 02, 2008

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    Ginko Nov 06, 2008

    Next operation after RAM check, is hard drive detection.

    If it freezes after completing RAM check, that means that the hard drive is faulty, or the hard drive cable is faulty, or the Cable/Slave/Muster jumper on the hard drive is incorrectly set.

    Access to bios, and perform hard drive detection.

    I am sure that if you remove the hard drive, the system will check memory, then detect cd and complete the post telling you there is no system disk.

    The hard drive is either too big for your system, or faulty, or not well connected.


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Did you install the software that came with the hard drive? If you didn't, it will not work with your computer and it might mess up your computer. Try turning it on and at the bottom of the screen you should see the word "boot" and "f(a number. Ex 10 or 12.)" Press that button on your keyboard and it should bring up a different screen. It should have a reboot button or restart button. If not, an installation cd should have came with the computer. When it is off, use a paper clip and open the cd drive and put it in. Turn the computer on and it should load up. This will reinstall the whole hard drive software and you will have a fresh start. If a cd did not come with your computer, call the computer company and they should send you one in the mail (probably for a small charge.)

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    Jazz Boyce Nov 05, 2008

    You should be able to call the company that your computer is owned by and they should be able to send you the booting software for your computer that will work with your hard drive wether it be Windows or Mac. It should boot up after that.

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When the floppy drive light stays on, the datacable may be upside down. Remove the floppy drive for a moment and try staring up. what are the results? Drop me a comment with the add a comment button and also include my nickname (ekse) on your message.

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Make sure your system or BIOS detects the HDD. The floppy with solid light indicates an incorrect or reversed cable on the IDE port itself. Try to use separate cables for the HDD and CD/DVD Drive. Don't forget to apply the power to the drives. If it was booting fine twice, it's just a matter of re-seating your HDD and power connectors.

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When you replace the hard drive did you install a fresh operating system on your computer? if not you just need to install a new operating system to your new hard drive . if you already did make sure that the under Boot sequence on your BIOS its set to hard drive no to boot from Floppy...

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    Did you try tor eload the operating system to that hard drive? if not yet better run again the XP installation cd and check if it will work after that..

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    Try to reset your BIOS , because sometimes this can be a problem with the BIOS settings and resetting it to default will help us fix the problem that you have...

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Use a different RAM and see if the problem exists

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    because it may be even a bad RAM sometimes. just have a check and then tell me what happens

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Change the bus cable, and check it on different IDE CONNECTOR, also put different power connector , load the default BIOS setting , check whether the HDD is detecting on BIOS or not

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    pankaj rautela Nov 02, 2008

    you have attached the floppy cable wrongly, flip it then attach to the floppy, for the system not booting again put a bootable cd, and boot your system through it, then repair it

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    pankaj rautela Nov 06, 2008

    download this program http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ boot your system from this cd, check whether your system boots it or not

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