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No back flush pressure

I have 1.6 gal tiolet (eljer) and when u flush there is no back flush pressure to take everything out. i have snaked the roof vent ,changed from the ball to a new water flow mec,put a new flapper. if u dump 1 to 2 gallons of water in the bowl it flushes perfectly,so i figure that there is no drain problems plus the tiolet on the other side of the wall different brand flushes just fine

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    how do i increase the water in the bowl by half an inch?

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Increase the tank water level half inch at a time till you have the back flush pressure.
seems like the water in the bowl is too low to create any wirlpool.

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