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Fridge not working

Coils in freezer were all frozen..I have a defrost problem..how do I determine if its the defroat timer, heater or thermostat???

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  • FredinGB Dec 17, 2007

    I have the same problem with my Kenmore. I turned the timer, and the refrigerator stopped. I did not hear anything.... If the heaters come on, is this something I should hear, or do I need to feel the evaporator heating up? Thanks!

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Speed, If your model number begins with 596. This is made by Amana with the Kenmore name. Look at your defrost thermostat that sits on the evaporator, see if its bulged. If it is it's more than likley your problem. Part number 12001937. Your heaters should be calrod and seldom fail. Advance the refer into defrost by turing the mechanical timer clockwise until you hear it click and see if the heater comes on. Should find the timer under the control panel, should be a slot you can use a screw driver to turn it. If the heaters don't come on you can temp. by pass the bi-metal by simply cutting it out,connecting the wires and putting it into defrost again. However, it must be replaced. This is a safety device. If the heater now comes on, it's your bi-metal. If they don't come on with the bi-metal by passed, check for 120V at the heater connection. If no voltage, its your defrost timer. Careful in there your working with live voltage...Catriver post back.

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