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Self-assigned IP address and may not be able to connect to the Internet

I am trying to troubleshoot a wireless network in an old sorority house that holds 40 residents, all trying to access wireless using laptops. Some time ago, maybe 6-7 years ago, the ORiNOCO AP-500 system was installed--a Netopia router is connected to the cable modem in the basement of the house, to one AP unit also in the basement, and the switch in a closet on the second floor. There are three AP units plus extenders installed on the second floor and one unit installed on the third floor of the house. We use the MAC address of the users to access the WLANa network which I manage using the AP manager software that came with the system. The residents have been getting very irregular Internet service. I have called the cable modem company to check the signal and they report that it is strong and has not dropped. However, we did have only 5x1.5 mb service and I had it increased to 10x2 mb. I've had two different companies come to look at the equipment only to tell me that the equipment works fine, and still the residents are getting inconsistent Internet connections, if at all. Macs get the message "self-assigned IP address and may not be able to connect to the Internet" and PCs get the message "limited or no connectivity." I am at a loss whether this equipment is salvagable or if I just need all new equipment. I connected a Netgear wireless G router to the Netopia and setup a separate WLANb network that I secured with a WPA-PSK password. I personally use a MacBook with OS X 10.5.5. I am not assigned an IP by the DHCP server when trying to access the WLANa network through the Netopia, but when I switch to the Netgear WLANb network, which is connected to the WLANa network, I am assigned an IP and I can access the Internet. Any thoughts?

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If its a wireless network it assigns yyou an ip immediately solong as you are not connecting directly so dont bother about the ip just connect and see what happens.

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