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I got an AMD turion x2 64 processor in my new notebook n after reading reviews comparison to core 2 duo i m really tensed!

Hello sirmam.

I have recently bought a new hp pavilion dv5 1106ax notebook with an amd turion x2 64bit processor.

But after reading the reviews on the internet about it...and its comparison with core 2 duo processor,its heating problems,its slower speed...i m really worried as if have i made the right decision or not??

yes,i m into games like nfs,fifa etc n i heard that amd is gud for gaming purpose.....but that is not my sole consideration.

So in a nutshell i would like to know more about the pros and cons of my processor.......its advantages....disadvantages over core 2 duo etc.

Please help me......m really not getting any sleep!!!!!!!!


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  • Shiv_rocker Oct 26, 2008

    hi there,



    thanks for ur timely reply

    i am using Norton antivirus rite now.

    i did use some notebook testing program that was from HP itself and was preinstalled.

    My notebook got a subscore of 4 in that.



    i m using windows vista basic edition.



    see,its just that m a real beginner in this matter.

    i needed a laptop basically for my educational needs..such as running c language,java etc n may be animations in future.........n playing games too!!!!!!

    earlier even i planned for a core 2 duo processor...coz thats in rite now n most of my friends have gone for it.....but ultimately i had to go for an AMD processor as it was suiting me better financially.



    it's just that i want to compare the two processors....as i want to know that if m lagging in some respect then what it is or if mine is better in some then where????

    and after going through the reviews i get that my biggest problem wud b performance,heat which wud not have been the case had i gone for the core 2 duo.i also heard that the system can hang due to overheating.



    i got to know that only the earlier versions of AMD like sempron had real heating problems n not the new ones........is it true???????



    its just that maybe i have developed a notion that core 2 duo is far superior.Also AMD processor being cheaper makes me feel so.

    i have never worked on a core 2 duo notebook so i am also not in a position to comment\compare my notebooks speed,heat generated ec

    .

    yes..when antivirus program is running or some dvd is being burnt system performs slower but i think thats normal.n system does get heated after 5 to 10 mins but again i cant say whether its a real cause of concern or not coz i dont know about other notebooks.



    i m surprised n delighted to get such prompt responses from ur team.....n hope that you understand my concern n are able to guide me on that!!!!!!

  • Shiv_rocker Oct 26, 2008

    Well......sir it says its a 32 bit operating system(system type)........and AMD Tution9tm0 X2 Dual-core Mobile Rm-70 2.00 Ghz(processor).







  • Shiv_rocker Oct 26, 2008

    You r right its the same part number!!!!!!!!!!

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    i m serching a hp laptop model no 540 sound drever

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Well sir.........it says its a 32 bit operating system(system type).....n Amd Turion(tm) X2 Dual-core RM-70 2.00 GHz(processor).

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You made a good choice. In the CPU arena right now, the difference between the two CPUs is a toss up. The slight advantages of one vs. the other in benchmark tests is nominal and actually artificial..

What happens with an AMD CPU is with the associated GPU onboard. And with a 64bit processor, the number of apps and games that take advantage of 64bit CPUs has always been limited but they are growing. This will only become more and more numerous.

The main architectural difference in the two was in how the two cpus communicated and the AMD was first to use a bus between the two cores and the Intel had to go to the onboard memory controller and back. That was in the first inception. Still, AMD has been far in advance of Intel and Intel has played catch up in tricks inside the cores and how the north and southbridge took advantage of the cores' architecture.

Needless to say, I'm an AMD power user and my gaming rig has an AMD dual core on an Asus/Nvidia board and an Nvidia PCIe 9800 GPU.

In the long run, all modern notebooks require you to own a pad cooler to use these in your lap or not, they all produce heat. So, just get a good one designed for your laptop so it snaps into place and will keep your rig nice and cool.

At a LAN Party you won't suffer from having a dual core AMD cpu, you'll hold your own and it will be an even playing field and the wins will go to the person with the fastest fingers... as it should be.

Sleep easy friend,
Worldvet

Posted on Oct 26, 2008

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  • Glenn Rogers
    Glenn Rogers Oct 26, 2008

    Hi,

    What is it exactly you are looking for insight on, getting your machine running well, better or speedy? Have you used a testing suite on your laptop? If so, which one was it?

    Maybe you can enlighten me/us on why or how your laptop is performing slow. For example, what antivirus solution are you using? for starters. And what apps are running in the background?

    As a Turion enthusiast myself, and I'm a system builder who is Asus, HP and Dell qualified, you should not pay too much attention to reviews in my opinion only. Real world testing, is best, such as those found at maximumpc.com. With your laptop, if you feel its slow, the thing to search for is why is it slow. A dual core 64 should rock. Allow us to help you get this thing rocking. That is what we are here for, friend. All of us are a bunch of gray haired techs who have been coding and building systems since the 80s and we are all current. We also have a lot of younger techs too who are getting their feet in business but are brilliant and intuitive.

    We'd really like to help you with your laptop if you'd let us do that.

    Are you using Vista64 or XP64?

    Worldvet


  • Glenn Rogers
    Glenn Rogers Oct 26, 2008

    You're not familiar with techo speak then? Sorry, I'm working with three other customers right now.

    If you press at the same time, the Windows Key and the Pause key, you will see a popup that will have data on your system builder and it tells you what version of Vista you have. Will you check that and verify if its Vista64 or not? Thanks.

    WV


  • Glenn Rogers
    Glenn Rogers Oct 26, 2008

    You can use the comment box. No need to use the Ask Me feature.

    I'm looking up your "as built" specs right now. It will take a few minutes to see what you actually have. I'll let you know if you have a misunderstanding on what you bought.

    WV


  • Glenn Rogers
    Glenn Rogers Oct 26, 2008

    On the bottom of your laptop is a label from HP that includes your model number it also has the PN or part no. see if it is this: FZ726PA

    Thanks. There are so many variations based on whom you purchased from and more so to verify I'm looking at the right spec sheet confirm the PN for me. Thank. I think this is right I just need to verify.

    WV


  • Glenn Rogers
    Glenn Rogers Oct 26, 2008

    OK. HP made several models of the same type but with various PNs depending on whether sold at Walmart, CostCo, Staples, Office Depot, Online Sellers, etc. This large box sellers make deals with HP for unit purchases of 10,000 units or more.

    A: You do not have a 64bit

    These are your specs:




    Product Number


    FZ726PA





    Microprocessor


    2.0 GHz AMD Turion X2 Dual-Core Mobile Processor RM-70





    Microprocessor Cache


    1 MB Level 2 cache





    Memory


    3072 MB (1 x 1024 MB + 1 x 2048 MB)





    Memory Max


    Up to 8 GB





    Video Graphics


    ATI Radeon HD 3450 Graphics





    Hard Drive


    250 GB (5400 rpm)





    Multimedia Drive


    LightScribe SuperMulti 8X DVD±RW with Double Layer Support





    Display


    15.4” Diagonal WXGA High-Definition Brightview Infinity Display with AG Panel (1280 x 800)





    Fax/Modem


    High speed 56K modem





    Network Card


    Integrated 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet LAN





    Wireless Connectivity


    802.11b/g WLAN

    Bluetooth





    Sound


    Altec Lansing speakers





    Keyboard


    101 key compatible





    Pointing Device


    Touch Pad with On/Off button and dedicated vertical Scroll Up/Down pad, volume control, mute buttons, 2 Quick Launch Buttons





    PC Card Slots





    • One ExpressCard/54 slot (also supports ExpressCard/34)







    External Ports





    • 5-in-1
      integrated Digital Media Reader for Secure Digital cards, MultiMedia
      cards, Memory Stick, Memory Stick Pro, or xD Picture cards

    • VGA

    • 4 USB 2.0

    • HDMI

    • eSATA

    • RJ-11

    • RJ-45

    • 1 IEEE 1394

    • Expansion Port 3

    • 2 headphones-out

    • 1 mic-in

    • Consumer IR

    • AC adapter







    Dimensions


    35.7 cm (W) x 25.9 cm (D) x 3.49 cm (min H) / 4.19 cm (max H)





    Weight


    2.65 kg





    Security





    • Integrated Fingerprint reader







    Power





    • 90 W AC Power Adapter

    • 6-cell Lithium-Ion (Li-Ion) battery


    There are processors that have 1MB Cache on each Core. You have 512MB on each core. That's your first deficit. Second HP offers these notbooks with 2.2 GHz CPU with 1MB of L2 cache on each core. Mine is 2.6 GHZ and 2MB per core. Mine is for a tower PC and I built it as a gaming rig.

    You have an ATI mobil Radeon GPU Display adapter. These units are critical to responsive performance.

    You have 3gigs of RAM which is the most Windows will recognize as it stands and is about as much as you can or should have.

    There is some doubt in my mind if you have a 64bit processor. It not clear on the HP web site. I did a search at AMD with your CPUs RM-70 spec and even that was uncertain.

    If you have something on your laptop cover sticker from HP that says its 64bit then it is, but running Vista32bit doesn't make any sense at all and this is why:
    The way a 64bit processor works is to translate all 32bit operations via an emulator inside the operating system. This proceedure to simply operate your laptop is what is making your laptop sluggish. What you will want to do is get a hold of a copy of Vista64 stand alone. All this hinges on you actually having a 64 bit processor. There is freeware software called WinAudit you can download and run from majorgeeks.com . I use this program all the time to audit a PC so I know what I have instead of relying on the customer telling me what they have. This program should tell you in its notes whether yours is 64bit or not.

    With Vista64 you would be golden on a 64bit CPU. I have XP64 on my 64bit Dual Core gaming rig and it smokes.

    So, here's the critical question. Do you actually have a 64bit CPU or not. Even if its labeled as 64bit, it doesn't mean a mistake was make and you actually don't have one. You wouldn't be the first one.

    Should this be the case, I can help you get in touch with a consumer advocate for PC users that's an old acquaintance of mine and still active. I know HP would make it right if the advocate gets involved.

    So, is your laptop labeled in any way to indicate you have a 64bit CPU?

    Let me know,
    Worldvet


  • Glenn Rogers
    Glenn Rogers Oct 26, 2008

    I'm going to take a break. Don't go away. I'll get an email when you post the results of Win Audit. If you haven't post what WinAudit states about your CPU.

    I'll be back later. When I reply, you'll get an email.

    WV


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