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Acer Veriton 5600G Front Side Bus settings/jumpers

Hi, how does one set and check the FSB speed? I can't find any motherboard diagram indicating jumpers nor settings nor BIOS setup (in Acer manuals) for this.

I understand P4 can go to 800Mhz and Celeron to 400MHz.
CPU-Z version 1.34.1. says I have the following:
CPU(s) Number of CPUs 1 Name Intel Celeron Code Name Northwood Specification Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.60GHz Family / Model / Stepping F 2 9 Extended Family / Model 0 0 Brand ID 10 Package mPGA-478 Core Stepping D1 Technology 0.13 um Supported Instructions Sets MMX, SSE, SSE2 CPU Clock Speed 2593.6 MHz Clock multiplier x 26.0 Front Side Bus Frequency 99.8 MHz Bus Speed 399.0 MHz L1 Data Cache 8 KBytes, 4-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size L1 Trace Cache 12 Kuops, 8-way set associative L2 Cache 128 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size L2 Speed 2593.6 MHz (Full) L2 Location On Chip L2 Data Prefetch Logic yes L2 Bus Width 256 bits Mainboard and chipset Motherboard manufacturer Acer Motherboard model J88M, (null) BIOS vendor Phoenix Technologies, LTD BIOS revision 6.00 PG BIOS release date 04/06/2004 Chipset Intel i865P/PE/G/i848P rev. A2 Southbridge Intel 82801EB (ICH5) rev. 02 Sensor chip SMSC 6001 FSB Select 400 MHz Performance Mode enabled Graphic Interface AGP AGP Status enabled, rev. 3.0 AGP Data Transfer Rate 8x AGP Max Rate 8x AGP Side Band Addressing supported, enabled Memory DRAM Type DDR-SDRAM DRAM Size 2048 MBytes DRAM Frequency 133.0 MHz FSB:DRAM 3:4 CAS# Latency 2.5 clocks RAS# to CAS# 2 clocks RAS# Precharge 2 clocks Cycle Time (TRAS) 6 clocks # of memory modules 2 Module 0 A-Data Technology DDR PC3200 - 1024 MBytes Module 1 A-Data Technology DDR PC3200 - 1024 MBytes Software Windows version Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600) DirectX version 9.0c
Maybe it's already running at 400Mhz but why is
Front Side Bus Frequency 99.8 MHz
shown?
Any help appreciated!

Regards, Gerry.

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    Gerry Gerry Oct 26, 2008

    Thanks - http://www.directron.com/fsbguide.html is a definite must read!



    A short answer would be fine but glad for that info. - I have a reasonable knowledge but was looking for some reassurance I guess. I'm assuming now it's running at 400 (100x4) but in the past I was used to m/board jumpers - this seems newer (no such jumpers - only BIOS).

    cheers kleeper, Gerry.

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Hi Gerry,

The understanding of how this works will require some study on your part. This is because you would not have enough basic knowledge to understand any short answers, that someone might give.

Here are some resources for you to read so you will understand this subject.

http://computer.howstuffworks.com/motherboard4.htm

http://www.directron.com/fsbguide.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Front_side_bus

I hope you will find the answers you are looking for here.
Good luck.

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I feel it may help you understand better. Looks like a test. The purpose of a test is to see what you know.........

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Motherboard_diagram.svg

You see how the CPU (Processor), is connected to the Northbridge chip, (Of the motherboard chipset)

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Correct

The Northbridge chip

As you can see the Northbridge chip handles the Faster capabilities of a computer;
CPU (Processor), Ram Memory, and HIGH-speed graphics; plus Jennifer Aniston.

NO! You gonna' believe that? Just messing with you about the Jennifer Aniston thing!
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HIGH-speed graphics being the AGP technology, and the PCI Express technology.

A graphics card inserted into a PCI slot, OR using Integrated (OnBoard) graphics; is NOT high-speed graphics

The Southbridge chip handles the Slower capabilities of a computer;

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C) IDE (PATA) bus,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_ATA

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E) USB bus
F) Ethernet
G) Audio (Sound)

Ram Memory TYPICALLY operates at half, of the Processor's FSB.
I say again -> TYPICALLY
Overclockers would like ram memory to operate at the same frequency rate ('Speed'), as the processor's FSB.

Problem is folks, the expansion slots are also dependent on the CPU's (Processor's) FSB

Mess with the CPU's FSB too much, and ram memory won't operate, and neither will the expansion slots.


Bear in mind Bud, that this is rapidly becoming old technology.
However, you have to know this technology, to be able to understand the Intel Core i technology.

This technology does NOT use a Front Side Bus,

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I am assuming after looking at the TriGem support page, for the Imperial GLVE motherboard, that the J2 jumper is used to change the FSB support for the Processor.

It MAY be that J2 has Nothing to do with CPU Support.
It may be that there is no jumper for changing CPU FSB support.

(Cleared that right up, huh? Geez!)

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Weird!

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