the 12v standby voltage is not there, checked the 12v power supply and found a shorted zener diode, d982. there are no markings on this diode, so i don't know what voltage this zener is.
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Jun 28, 2006
- the zener is on the PRIMARY (150V) side of the supply, not the secondary. the 12 volts is regulated on the secondary side of the supply by a 7812 regulator.
the zener is in the base circuit of the switcher on the primary side, creating a reference voltage for the switcher to compare to it's feedback voltage. so the question remains.... what voltage is the zener? if i had a schematic, i wouldn't be asking.Jun 28, 2006
- sorry, but 1n4148's are NOT zener diodes, they are general purpose signal diodes.
c'mon people, it's not that difficult.... does anybody have a schematic? i don't, that's why i'm asking.....Jun 28, 2006
- read my reply again "techman"..... this is a switchmode power supply, the zener is the reference voltage to set the duty cycle on the PRIMARY side which is operating at 150v. assuming a duty cycle of 35-65%, this puts the zener somewhere in the range of 50-100v.
as for "working without a net" i HAVE been doing this for 35 years, and usually only need a schematic for specific information, in this case the voltage of a zener. i would think that if you had been doing this as long as you claim, you could at least show some professional courtesy and either answer the question or keep quiet. instead now you have given me 2 bogus answers off the top of your head (mixed with childish comments), based upon incorrect assumptions about the circuit in question, and i have a 3rd bogus answer from an "engineer" that doesn't know a zener from a signal diode. from now on, if you don't know, don't answer, you're wasting my time and yours, and if you really had the experience you claim, you would know that "time is money".Jun 28, 2006
- today's class is "switchmode 101".
120 volts ac comes in off the rail to a bridge rectifier, and is rectified to provide 150v dc. the 150v goes to a "chopper" which creates a 150v p-p 20khz square wave across the primary of a transformer. the square wave is stepped down on the secondary to (in this case) 15v at 20khz, which is rectified to provide about 14v dc, which then goes through a 7812 regulator to provide 12v dc.
in the chopper on the primary side is a voltage reference and a comparator. the comparator samples the dc average of the 150v square wave and compares it against a voltage reference. if the average drops below the reference, the comparator widens the pulse width. if the average goes above the reference, the comparator narrows the pulse width. the voltage reference sets the average duty cycle. in this case the voltage reference is a zener diode. switchmode power supplies are most efficient in the range of 35-65% duty cycle, so the zener voltage is between 50 and 100 volts. if the duty cycle is set wrong, overheating will eventually damage components in the secondary circuit, so it is important to know the proper voltage for the zener.
no guesses off the top of your head please. if you have the schematic, look it up. that's all i'm asking for.Jun 28, 2006
- tnx, i was going to try about 50 volts, then measure the preregulated voltage on the secondary and see if i needed to go up in zener voltage or down. 47 sounds about right for about 35% duty cycle.....then there's a series diode that makes it 0.7v higher. there was also a dried out electrolytic in the reference voltage source, 47uf@50v. if i have a zener in stock, i should have this beast up and running this afternoon.