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Understanding the multi effects on the 2488

I will first record the drums and then the base. Then when i record the first guitar I will hold down the multi-effect button and press the appropriate channel. I then get a good effect on that channel. However when I do the same thing to record the next guitar on another channel I get a good effect on that channel but lose the effect on the first channel.
Can not figure this out.
Can anyone help
thanks
MIke Kuzma
rmkuzma@insightbb.com

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  • rmkuzma Oct 19, 2008

    I thank you very much. I am sorry i dont quite understand, so do you mind telling me exactly what to do to use the multi button on the first channel and then go back and use it on the second channel and then listen to the recording and here the multi effects on both channels.

    thanks

    do I owe for this advise

    thanks

    Mike Kuzma

    rmkuzma@insightbb.com

  • rmkuzma Oct 20, 2008

    thnaks for the reply, but i must repeat my send



    I thank you very much. I am sorry i dont quite understand, so do you mind telling me exactly what to do to use the multi button on the first channel and then go back and use it on the second channel and then listen to the recording and here the multi effects on both channels.



    M kuzma

  • rmkuzma Oct 20, 2008

    I do appreciate your help



    heres my thoughts

    I have figured out that I can press the multi-effect button and put an effect (say clean chorus) on lets say a vocal track. Then go back and bounce it to another track and the effect goes with it then go back and put an effect (say dist) on a guitar and then go back abd bounce it to a track and the effect goes with it. Without doing this, I do not know how to put the chorus on one track and the distortion on another. IF you did everything dry then seems to me that you would have to do this same thing at Mixdown. So how do you put a multi-effect of one type on one track and a multi-effect of another type on another track.

    There you have it

    thanks

    Mike Kuzma

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Hi rmkuzma

You are not recording the effect to track, it is probable that you are perhaps using the effect loop, it will not be recorded to track this way. This how you should really record anyways so that you can go back and change the effect or even just fine tune it in the mix, you can then bounce the track later with effect if you want later. If you want the effect to go to track then

1. Press and hold the MULTI button, then press
the SELECT button on the channel you want to
assign.

2. Press MULTI again to view the effect parameters.
Press the ENTER button to choose an effect
that you want, tweak it for what you want, and it should then go to track

Try that and see how you go. I am happy to talk to you more about it. A FixYa is a good reward for my efforts to help you out. Cheers mate

regards
robotek

Posted on Oct 19, 2008

  • Graeme Ross
    Graeme Ross Oct 20, 2008

    If you select the effect in the manner I have indicated, then you should be recording the effect and instrument to track.



    I was also suggesting that it is good practice to record instruments "dry" without effect, because when it comes to mixing down your song, you cannot undo the effect, nor make any changes to the settings. Having said that, I also understand that you may be using the effect for distortion and so on, so you may be needing to use the effect to get the sound you are looking for from your guitar.



    Have you been able to get the effect to track yet?



    regards

    robotek

  • Graeme Ross
    Graeme Ross Oct 21, 2008

    Hi again, I think understand your problem a little better. From what I remember,(it has been a while) and what the quick start guide(get the full user manual here also) tells us... you should be able to record the signal source AND the effect to the same track using the procedure I gave you with the multieffect as an insert on that channel. Due to processing limitations the unit can only deliver one Multieffect at once with MicX4 effects are being used-none if you have MicX8 engaged.



    Bouncing the recorded track adding the effect later would be my preferred approach so as to take advantage of the effects loop and allow you to still make changes when you do your mixdown. .



    I have just re-read the manual again, page 31 in the manual talks about the multi effect.









    Assigning the multi-effect to a channel or input

    The multi-effect is assigned in the same way as the mic effects: press and hold the MULTI key and press the input or channel SELECT key. Any input or channel assigned when the MULTI key is first pressed flash. Unassigning the multi-effect follows the same proce-dure: press and hold the MULTI key, and press the flashing SELECT key. NOTE The multi-effect can be freely assigned to mono inputs or channels or to linked or stereo input or channels.



    This procedure means you should the effect inserted into your chosen channel. Hope this helps, I dont have a unit in front of me to experiment with, but you do, so I suggest experimenting with it following instructions from the manual Good luck :)



    regards

    robotek

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