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Cant install powercolor 9600 pro on EliteGroup 845GV-M3 mobo... Fan will run in agp express slot but hardware not found on boot up (win XP)

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  • findads Oct 17, 2008

    thanks for your input, but when I change bios to recognise card on startup I get no signal at all; from the 9600 pro or the onboard card, yet when I plug in Nvidia mx4000 128 Mb card I have no problem. (except its a **** card!) Is there any known compatability issues with ati/ powercolor? any other suggestions would be much appreciated.

  • findads Oct 17, 2008

    Is there anything else that should be adjusted in BIOS?

  • findads Oct 18, 2008

    Yes, upon removal of the Powercolor I get signal back on Mobo card. The mx4000 is AGP also. Thanks for the link, I went there and registered & am trying to get solution from them also, but if you have any further ideas they are welcome. Your last comment (guess mobo needs AGP card to run at 1.5 volt.....) I dont really understand what that means, can the supply to AGP port be adjusted?

  • findads Oct 18, 2008

    there is a jumper on the graph card... I believe it will change the AGP level. Do you think that would make any difference? Do you know what setting = what AGP level?

  • findads Oct 19, 2008

    The card is Powercolor 9600 PRO (game FX board series) 256MB 128 BIT AGP 8x. There is no pins/ port etc to plug external power. It is very similar to http://www.directron.com/r96hc3. Except it is 256 (not 128)

  • findads Oct 20, 2008

    Ok, thanks for all your help mike, I really appreciate it.

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HI findads,

You need to make a change in your bios. Still have your manual for the 845GV-M3 motherboard?
If not you can download it at this link: http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Downloads/ProductsDetail_Download.aspx?detailid=465&DetailName=Manual&DetailDesc=845GV-M3%20%20(V1.0)&CategoryID=1&MenuID=82&LanID=0
You will also need Adobe reader to view the pdf file. Get Adobe for free at: http://www.adobe.com/products/reader/

If you have already installed the 9600 AGP card, please shut down your system. Unplug the power cord from the power supply. Open your case & remove the 9600 AGP card. One must follow an order of sequences’ when changing graphics cards. Once removed, reconnect the power cord to the power supply & boot the system. (It’s ok not to close your case). As the system starts to boot, press the Delete key on your keyboard every two seconds. The main bios menu will load. Read the instruction at the bottom of the menu which will show you how to move about in the bios.
(The mouse does not function while in the bios).
Using the manual to help change a settings.

Go to Advanced Chipset Features page 35, than into Integrated Peripherals, page 37.
Set Init Display First to [AGP]. Save the bios & exit. The system will auto restart. Once your screen goes to black, press & hold the power on / off button on your case until the system shuts off.
Unplug the power cord from the power supply. Install the AGP video card. Make sure it is completely seated & even in the AGP slot. Screw it down. Before closing the case, re-check all internal power connections to every device & all data connections. (Snug fit). Close your case & reconnect the power cord to the PC. Boot your system. You should have display & windows should load.
Install the CD software for the 9600 Pro video card. Restart the PC. Go to power color & check for any driver updates for the 9600 Pro card. http://www.powercolor.com/
Before installing any update from PowerColor check windows for updates.

Everything should work out ok.
Good luck findads!
Questions? Post here.

Mike


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    Mike Peluso Oct 17, 2008

    HI findads, now that is odd! When you removed the 9600 AGP card did you get display on your monitor? I have gone through the manual twice. There is only one bios setting as I mentioned which changes the motherboard from using the onboard PCI graphics to AGP express graphics. There are other settings (In the bios) when using the PCI intergrated graphics card. Things like setting total amount of system memory. Once display first is changed to AGP all settings for the intergrated video are ignored by the bios.

    When switching to the AGP express, one only needs to change, Set Init Display First to [AGP].

    You mentioned the onboard & the 9600 do not show display. Yet the mx4000 works. Is the mx4000 a PCI video card or AGP?

    ATI & PowerColor cards are like twins. Take the ATI 9700 Pro card. ATI shows what voltage the card supports.

    http://ati.amd.com/products/radeon9700/r...

    It's my guess your motherboard needs the AGP card to run at 1.5volt.

  • Mike Peluso
    Mike Peluso Oct 18, 2008

    I would not move the jumper on the video card. I would need to see it or see the manual for it.

    Let’s forget about the onboard graphics card for a minute. Please give me the full name of the video card or card's, so I can find a snap shot & possible spec sheet for them.

    Example: "PowerColor 9600 Pro 128MB DDR AGP 4x 8x"?

    See this link: http://www.directron.com/r96hc3.html



    "Jaton - nvidia Geforce MX4000 / Low Profile Support / Dual Vgas /128MB DDR/AGP 8X"?

    As seen here: http://www.antonline.com/p_3DFORCEMX4000...



    To answer your question about 1.5v = voltage. All AGP video cards run at a certain voltage.

    Older AGP cards, 2x speed ran at 3.0 volts. The AGP slot feeds the AGP card, though most had a plug to provide more power to the AGP to run.

    4x & 8x AGP cards normally need an AGP slot to provide the 1.5volt to function. Other motherboards & your current MB lack the proper information needed. The manual normally provides voltage information needed for the AGP card. AGP slots vary, AGP 2X (3.3v), 4X (1.5V), 8X (0.8v)/(1.5v) or Universal AGP 3.0 bus configuration (2X/4X/8X).

    This can get confusing for the average user. Voltage at the AGP slot can not be adjusted. Though some cards require additional power. Some cards use a 4-pin molex plug. This power connector is the same as an IDE power connector. Other cards use a connector that can power a floppy drive.

    Here is a picture of an ATI RADEON 9700 PRO 256 MB AGP card. Scroll down till you see:

    Requirements:

    I can tell this card supports 1.5v because there are two separations at the copper contacts.

    Again there are many AGP 1.5v cards that have three separations.

    After checking the manual again I find you do not need to change the bios to [AGP]. The motherboard will automatically sence the AGP express is in use & boot to it. See note 3 at the bottom of page 19. After checking other cards listed on page 18 in manual. I am sure you need to run a 1.5v compatible AGP card. The video card that does not show up on your monitor is either not compatible or you need additional power from your power supply. There must be a power port on the AGP card to plug into.



    Mike

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    Mike Peluso Oct 18, 2008
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    Mike Peluso Oct 18, 2008

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  • Mike Peluso
    Mike Peluso Oct 19, 2008

    Considering everything we have gone over there is one item we have not done.

    That is to try the AGP card in another system that uses an AGP card. I have a feeling your PowerColor card is bad. Even though the fan functions. This link shows your PowerColor card:

    http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I...

    This card is 1.5v compatable & it should function correctly on your, EliteGroup 845GV-M3 MB.

    You have nothing to loose by moving the jumper on the card but I advise against it untill you hear from PowerColor. On the other hand if this is a new card, suggest you return it to whom you bought it from. There are many AGP 1.5v cards out there with faster memory.

    This XFX is warranted for life:

    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/...



    Mike

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Appreciate the direct "Ask Me".

Background info, a Powercooler 9600 PRO EZ was most probably manufactured by C.P.Technology in Taiwan. I am sorry to say that quality wise, this company is rather low and to my understanding, a lot of their products has to be returned/replaced even new. On the other hand, the old Nvidia MX4000 might have been manufactured by Palit, also in Taiwan but has a better quality control as of the time of production. The MX4000 though only uses 128Mb of memory but runs them at 275/400 (DDR) MHz clock speed compared to the 9600 PRO 200 (400) MHz. The slow memory onto the PowerColor RADEON 9600 PRO EZ 256MB had a really bad effect on its performance.

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