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Toilet pan installation procedure

The procedure to join pan to waste pipe without leaking. do i silicone around rubber seal

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  • sue1118 May 11, 2010

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    I tried to put one of those 'blue blocks' which colour the water into the cistern. Unfortunately in doing so I yanked the cover off and broke a plastic circle which connects the plunger button to the it that it operates. Now it is in bits and I don't know how the plunger button connects to the plunger - although I have the bits I don'e know how to put them together as they don't seem to fit!



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Hi muller2012,

I'm Harvey the Master Plumber.

Your question is: the procedure to join pan to waste pipe without leaking. do i silicone around rubber seal?

In 30 years this is the first time I've heard of a toilet "pan". If you're refering to the bowl, it connects with a wax ring and a pair of bolts. You then caulk around where the bowl meets the floor to keep cleaning liquids from getting under and getting stinky. If this is not a standard toilet it would be a good idea to post pictures and give make and model.

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Harvey your Master Plumber

Posted on Oct 15, 2008

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