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Deteriorating 5100cn print quality

Cory -
Thanks for your help on my printer. I think that you've hit the nail right on the head. I just submitted some additional information on the life counter values that I'm seeing from the printer. Can you please take a look at my posting and tell me what you think? Thanks.

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  • Robert_Lef Oct 15, 2008

    Regarding the life counter: my issue isn't that the counters are so low, but rather that they're so high. When I went into diagnostic mode and then to print|parameters, I received the following information: the life of the toners was all less than 2000. I assume that this is because I probably removed the toner cartridges some time in during the printer's 10,000 page life. The life of the BTR1, Fuser, Printer, and PHD1 are all approximately 14,900 (give or take 10). However, the life of the phd2=88,450, the phd3=12,318, the phd4=39, the phd5=0, the deve unit 1=75,635, the deve unit 2=75,635, the deve unit 3=75,635, and the deve unit 4=84,049. Am I correct in interpretting this to mean that several components of my printer have seen use well beyond the 10,706 that is shown on the web status interface? Can you think of any explanation for this?



    Thanks.

  • Robert_Lef Oct 25, 2008

    Changing the drum made a big difference. I now don't have those horrible lines. I still wouldn't say that the 'solid' colors are solid, but this is worlds better. Thanks.

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Can you repost the information here? I can not seem to locate your previous post. Have you tried a new imaging unit? My thought on that is that even though I feel this is more then likely the cause of your issue, it IS a consumable, and if it does not fix the issue, you put it back in the foil pouch and seal the box and hang on to it until you do require changing it. It is not money lost, but at worst, just premature ( although it never hurts to have your spares on hand ).

The other thing is this.. the life counters, at least to me, are not a big indicator of anything more then possibly telling you things are going to wear out. I have seen new items fail, and old items keep going and going and going..... you get the picture... lol

Thanks,

Cory

Posted on Oct 14, 2008

  • Cory Friedman
    Cory Friedman Oct 16, 2008

    honestly i have never had a reason to read those numbers, so i am just taking a guess at it, but I don't belive that the numbers relate to page count at all in the same sence that the true page count does.



    They could related to prints remaining before EOL ( end of life ). For instance, if the life is supposed to be 100K, then the 85k count is the count remaining.



    the best way to figure out how this count is incrimenting is to take an exact count, then print out maybe 10 documents.



    take a look at the count again and compare them. if the count is going down, that it is a countdown to life remaining.



    Let me know what you find.

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not a problem at all.

This should fix your issue. I won't say it is a common failure, as the machine overall is very reliable, however for this problem the magenta developer is the most common failure for the 5100 and 5110.

Check your email shortly for the document and additional comments.

Please take a moment to rate this solution,

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