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Philips DPTV335 I'm trying to troubleshoot a Philips DPTV335 I just picked up on craigslist.  It has audio but no video.  The original owner stated that the screen looked bowed a few days before it shutdown completely.   He said a repair tech looked at it and told him the blue tube was bad.  My questions is if one tube goes out does it cause the entire set to shutdown or will the other two tubes - red - green - continue to light up.   Right now all three tubes are not on - or are not bright enough to light up the screen.  Thanks in Advance for the advice.  Ed

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    Edward Oct 13, 2008

    Thanks Bill for the quick response. I will give the above suggestions a shot. 

    FYI - I took a better look at the CRT tubes and noticed the following...

    All three light up and glow orange....but its very dim...I suspect this is the heater element? Is this powered

    Also, the blue tube seems to arc/spark inside the neck of the tube a few times.

  • Edward
    Edward Oct 19, 2008

    Hey Bill,

    Looks like I may have shot myself in the foot. 

    I tried swapping the blue CRT from one set to another to see if it would work or not. 

    I have a Philips PTV835 in the garage that has been working fine.  I took out the blue tube from this set and set it aside. I then took the faulty CRT from the DPTV335 and put it into the PTV835. 

    I powered it up - and got nothing - none of the cans lit up. 

    I then reveresd the change and put the original blue CRT back into the PTV835.  

    I powered it up - expecting it to work as before - but its now dead also.   I killed my second set. 

    My guess is that the faulty CRT somehow damaged something in my good set when I swapped it out. Not sure what? 

    Do you know what the typical components are that get damaged when a CRT shorts out?

  • alvaradoe27 Feb 04, 2009

    I havre the same problem only mine I could not get the blue converge to line up, also where is vertical ic located I have owners manual but no pic or schematic of tvs guts thanks

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Ed,
That chassis has a couple of problems I'd check first before writting it off as a bad crt... The vertical Ic can cause the problems you're experiencing. In that unit it's a TDA8177 (vertical Ic) and if it fails you'll find no 10v supply to the HV generator - thus no HV to light the cans. Could also be the HV generator module itself, but more likely vertical Ic before suspecting the HV module. If you hav a dmm you could measure the voltage on pins 7 & 8 or pins 1 & 2 on the HV plug. If you have nothing there it's the generator - if not highly suspect the vertical.
To answer your question - if the blue can were bad red & green would still light depending on the internal short. If all three are out I'd suspect a loss of HV (high voltage) or B+ as it's referenced.
Good Luck!
Bill

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  • William Rayburn
    William Rayburn Oct 13, 2008

    Blue could very well have a short then - time to drag out the crt tester and check for a filiment short. But a light glow just means that it has low voltage present, probably still no high voltage. Tech probably noticed the arcing also and if he was any good slapped the BK on it and found the short was not fixable. (That's a guess).. So even if you restore B+ you may still have a crappy picture and not worth trying to replace the can, too expensive..

    Bill

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