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I just purchased a Saeco Ring Plus. It worked fine for the first 20 cups of espresso. My wife told me she heard it making a noise. When I went to check the machine was off and I can not turn it on. It is plugged in properly, the outlets work ... but nothing. If there is a fuse, I have not been able to find it. Can you help. barry

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  • bury Oct 05, 2008

    I received a comment to look on the main board for a fuse. What main board.... I think techgurus is just posting a generic answer in the hope of getting lucky with a solution. I would like a response from someone who know something about the Saeco Espresso Ring Plus machine.

    barry

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There is a fuse on the main circuit board please check it.

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  • tech gurus Oct 05, 2008

    its like a mini tubelight shaped and of thin glass.with a thin tungsten wire in it that wire goes short due to high voltage passing in the unit .please look on the main board as it can be easily located and can be easily removed and replaced.

  • tech gurus Oct 05, 2008

    if the fuse is working properly then there could be a shortcircuit on the same board and the circuit tracks which supply power to the unit must be getting cut in between so the circuit is not been able to complete and results in no power.

  • tech gurus Oct 05, 2008

    The thermal breaker has died in it. This is usually mounted on, or near the heating elementm and usually turns off when excessive temperatures are present (such as when a pot boils dry, or the unit is left on for days) It can be checked with a ohm meter on its contacts. If it shows as good, it should show up as normally closed. Some overtemp breakers have a small button for resetting, but most are simply supposed to reset themselves once the heat is sufficiently reduced. There are also heat fuses that blow...for good when excessive heat is detected, mounted in the same place, they are often a metal bullet shaped tube.

  • tech gurus Oct 05, 2008

    All coffe makers have a thermal cutoff fuse located on the bottom heating plate. It is usually in series with one of the leads to the actual heater. This should read "short" with an ohm meter. If it is "open" it needs replacement. They are rated in Degrees celsius, and are sometimes difficult to find.

  • tech gurus Oct 06, 2008

    Another tip for you, if you take out the brew group and look at it you will find a metal filter on it whit a X screw in the center of it.
    You need i very short screw driver to reach it. Remove that filter and clean it carefully. Put the filter against a light source you must see thru all these small holes. You might need a needle to get rid of all dirt. It will not fall out any small parts when you remove that filter. Easy fix!

  • tech gurus Oct 06, 2008

    Here's a few Tips for the countless number of people having problems with the Saeco Line Super Automatics Machines.

    These are more Suggestions if you will on what you can do that will help your machine last as long as possible.

    Tip 1. Surge Protector. Get one and use it on your machine. About half of the problems associated with saeco's revolve around a power....or lack of power problem.

    Even the smallest Surge can send your machine out of whack. Worse yet if it loses power while in mid cycle, it can jam the brew system.

    Tip 2. Bottled Water. Coffee is 90% Water, so by contrast quality water will increase the quality of the cup. Try an artisan water like fuji or italian bottled water, or even filtered water. This small tip will not only keep your machine insides clean, it'll make for a way better espresso.

    Tip 3. Ditch the Oiley Beans. All Super Automatic Espresso Machines, even the 20,000 dollar commercials have one major flaw. They Hate Oiley Coffee Beans. Why? Its simple, Oiley Beans Gum Up the inside of the grinder and brew drive system and clog them.

    Another Reason to Ditch Oiley Beans? Being a 2nd Generation Artisan Roaster Oiley Beans scream a few things. Oiley beans are usually over roasted. The oil on the beans isn't a good thing, the oil represents the flavor oils from inside of the coffee emerging out. Once they become oxodized the coffee loses flavor almost immediately. Oiley beans are also a sign of beans that have aged, which again, is not a good thing. Proper Espresso Should have very little to no Oil on the beans with a Uniform Color Darker then a city roast.

    They Only Time there is an exception is with a french or dark roast, where the ashy tones are allowed.

    Best Advice here is try to find a local roaster. The quality is usually better then any of the commercial corperate counterparts and your actually supporting people like you. What kind of people is that??? People who have a genuine love for coffee and want people to share that love.

    Tip 4. Descaling. Even with bottled water the machine should be descaled every other month. You have a variety of options here. I personally use cleancaf for its ease of use and the fact every packet has the instructions on them.

    Tip 5. Brew Group Cleaning. Clean the Brew Group with Soapy Water. No chemicals necessary. You'll also need to purchase some silicone lubricant which is sold by saeco. It must be food grade. The lubricant is applied around the inside ridge of the puck area of the brew group. The first 3 coffee's on the machine should be tossed there after to clear it of residue.

    Tip 6. Turn Machine off after each use. When you don't need it, don't leave it on. Leaving it on for long periods of time creates air pockets inside the boiler of the machine and can dry out the inner gasket of the boiler unless you have the new J Style Boilers that come with the newer lines from Saeco.

    Tip 7. Be careful of your grinder. Firstly, I tell people every day. This machine is not ment to make commercial quality espresso. Its just not possible. It was ment to make for a better experience than the traditional italian moka pots that make fairly terrible coffee. If you want a stronger coffee, then the answer is in itself, try other coffee's.

    The machine enhances good coffee, and by comparison, enhances the flaws in bad coffee. Inferior Coffee's will have little crema and bad taste. The machine will try the best it can to accomodate the coffee. The Elongated pre infusion cycle help take even the worst coffee and make it look like it gives increadible crema. The proof comes afterwards, where the crema will decipate from the bad coffee's but will stay strong on the true espresso blends.

    Setting the grinder any lower then 2, regardless of the model, it warrent for clogging and/or damaging the unit. If the coffee is too fine, it'll clog the unit, and usually cause the brew drive to strip the gears and even worse, i've come across cases where its even broken the brew drive.



    This concludes my Tips for Keeping your Saeco functional post. I hope this helps people and gives them incentive to step out of the box when it comes to conventional coffee's that are on the market

  • tech gurus Oct 06, 2008

    also check for the internal white colour switch if that gets tripped due to circuit short internally.there could be same problem in the unit.the switch is located internally.

  • tech gurus Oct 06, 2008

    keep me updated.

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