Any reported problems with new Finish Quantum Powerball tablets
I think thes tablets are causing foam which is flooding the lower part of the Bosch machine we have. Having drained it and gone back to the solid powerball tablets, no further problems. We have had the machine for 5 years and never had this fault before, it has happened twice, hence the change back to the solid tablets. firstname.lastname@example.org
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Re: Any reported problems with new Finish Quantum...
Yes there have been some issues with these stuff in dishwashers without flood protection. If you want to use them you will have to get a anti-flood attachment for your washer. So its up to you to decide..
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<u><i>Phosphate-Free Dishwasher Detergents May Cause White Film</i></u><br />
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<p>Notice a white film or residue on your dishes, glassware, plastic items,<br />
<p>utensils and tub interior.<br />
<p>The problem is likely not the dishwasher's cleaning performance, but may be hard water<br />
<p>or phosphate-free detergents.<br />
<p>As of July 1, 2010 seventeen States* passed laws limiting the amount of phosphorous<br />
<p>(phosphates) in household dishwasher detergents to no more than 0.5 percent.<br />
<p>Previous detergents contained up to 8.7 percent. As a result, major manufacturers have<br />
<p>reformulated their dishwasher cleaning products.<br />
<p> Phosphates are mineral additives in detergents that act as the main cleaning agent helping<br />
<p>remove stains, break down grease and reduce spotting.<br />
<p>During washing, phosphates suspend food particles so they don't stick to dishes. Plus, they<br />
<p>soften water allowing suds to form for cleaning.<br />
<p>Phosphates have been limited in laundry detergents since 1994. The change in dishwasher<br />
<p>detergents is another step in the eco-conscious awareness found in today's products and<br />
<p>the eco-friendly choices consumers are making. Allowing the water in your sink to run untill its hot before starting your dishwasher helps. Also try switching to one of these brands of detergents <br />
<p>1. Finish® Quantum™ (Tablets)<br />
<p>2. Finish® all in 1 Powerball® Tabs<br />
<p>3. Cascade® Complete All in 1 ActionPacs™<br />
4. Cascade® with Dawn® ActionPacs<br /></b>
If you have a water softener, just drop the entire tablet into the bottom of the dishwasher at the beginning of the cycle. This is to allow extra cycles to get all the soap out, since soap goes a lot farther in soft water. If you don't have a water softener, put the tablet in the part with the lid, and close the lid. You don't need anything in the other (pre-wash) part.
Generally what type of detergent you use depends on what is recommended for the dishwasher. I am not sure which model of fisher and paykel dishwasher you have. But my opinion is that dish drawer type dishwashers work better with normal Finish powder detergent. It is not designed for tablets. The size of the wash space is small and it works on the principle of short and quick wash cycles. So the powerball is an overkill. Now about the streaking, this could be linked to the powerball but also you need to check if the rinse aid is present in the dispenser and also that you have selected the appropriate meter level for it being dispensed. 0 means no rinse aid and 5 is too much.;
the dynamo dishwashing stuff has caused foaming which reached the base of the dishdrawer unit causing the flood switch to trip. This gives F1 error. Not sure how much foaming has occured.
Best to turn off power and take power cable out from socket. then empty the drawer using towels. pull out the bottom drawer and wait a day or so to let the foam disappear from the bottom of dishwasher (under the bottom drawer). Connect the power and see if F1 had gone. If not, you need more work. Post a comment based on the above suggestion and I will guide you further if required. Always use Finish dishwasher power only (recommended quantity) as the drawers are small and don't need much detergent.
Unfortunately, even though you are using the same detergent brand (and version). The detergent formulation has changed. The phosphate compounds in the detergent have been removed. The phosphates improved the cleaning action in the old formulas significantly by keeping the calcium and other mineral ions from redepositing on the dishes. They also helped improve other parts of the cleaning process.
If you aren't using a rinse aid, try adding some to your dishwasher. Otherwise try other brands and formulations of detergent to find one that actually works. Recent tests by Consumer Reports gave the best grades to the the Finish Quantum and Powerball tablet detergents. (However, both of these ranked lower than the 2010 test best product due to the phosphate-free formulas.) All of the powdered phosphate-free formulas ranked at the bottom of the list.
I wish that I had better news for you.
Cindy Wells (We went through a similar issue with our dishwasher detergent. The Consumer Reports test results are probably available at your local library if they subscribe to the publication. Otherwise you can pay a fee to access the content online. I read a review of the chemistry issue for the detergents in the Jan 24, 2011 issue of C&EN, which may be in a Chemistry or University library near you.)
The coating is a PVA glue i find the best way is to soak the tablet in a small container in hot water till is disovles then just pour the mixture into the tray, the water will then wash the mixture out better leaving it nice and clean
anti flood device has been activated,
this means you have water in the base of appliance. most likely a leak, or if you have been using 3 in 1 tablets, and rinse aid this will over foam appliance and foams leaks into base..
try tipping d/w back to let water out of base..then try d/w again... if anti flood activates again...call an engineer..
ps check big nut that secures salt container to base of d/w, it can come loose which will cause water to leak into base