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Bobbin winder has no tension

All of a sudden I cannot wind a bobbin because when I do, there is no tension, no matter how many different ways I try to do it, so the result is a loosely and tangled wound bobbin. What has happened? I have had this machine for two years, it has always wound bobbins perfectly. Help!

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  • meghann5 Sep 24, 2008

    I actually finally figured it out, I had never noticed (I guess it had always done it on its own) that it actually clicks in place around the head that the thread winds around to go to the bobbin. Once I made sure it was clicking in, it worked great. Thank you so much for your reply!

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Are you sure you have the thread over the right place? it should be from the spool to the small metal wheel on the top of the machine and nothing else, also make sure your using a janome or s-class bobbin ( also it should be a plastic bobbin if it loads from the top of the machine and not the front ) when i fill a bobbin i also start out slow sometimes keeping my finger loosley on the thread itself before it winds on the bobbin to give it more stability.

Posted on Sep 24, 2008

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    Tally Girl Nov 08, 2011

    I agree; and would endorse what Andy says, keep your finger loosely onto the thread spool that you are winding off all the time - use the curved handle of a pair of scissors perhaps. You want to ensure that the spool doesn't bounce or **** as this will definitely impact on the winding you get onto your bobbin. Many manuals don't say this but it truely makes a difference to winding a bobbin. Check out my tip here if you'd like more info. http://www.fixya.com/support/r10598580-w...

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