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Re: Kenmore 417 front load washer
Normally when the bearing goes, it was most likely caused initially by a damaged water seal that allowed water to reach the bearing. If this has been going on for sometime, then there is also the possibility of the shaft being worn out. Repair or replace decision would have to be done after a visual inspection. Additionally, pls bear in mind that:
bearing replacement would require removal of the entire rear half of the tub, less than 100USD;
a press would be needed to install the new bearing (if ever available solo);
not difficult repair job but very time consuming;
often the bearing is available only as part of the whole shell (with spin tub inside) and bearing assembly probably between 150~250USD ?part #134453200? tub ***'y.
Based on all of the above and the result(s) of your visual inspection, then repair or replace could then be made.
Hope this be of initial help/idea. Pls post back how things turned up or should you need additional information.
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Kathy, you may have the beginnings of a tub bearing failure. What usually happens is the water seal fails on the tub drum shaft. This lets water into the bearing cavity and usually some grease migrates out into the drum. What eventually happens is the wash water eventually washes the grease out of the bearings and they fail. You will notice your spin cycle getting louder and louder.
You can check for a loose tub bearing by lifting the drum gently at the top. Is there play where the drum can move vertically, independently of the outer assembly? That's my guess. You can do an internet search about tub bearing replacement if you want to get into that. Its doable, depending on your skill level. Good luck.
Been there and done that. Usually Frigidaire doesn't sell the bearings, but they are standard bearings and you can usually match up a seal.
Likely the cause is grease from a failing rear bearing.
Unfortunately, it's cheaper to buy a new washer than to fix this one. That's pathetic for a washer that's only 8 years old, and completely negates any environmental and economic benefits of buying a front loader.
periodically this has happened in a white sheet wash in my kenmore front loader series 417. we ran the washer empty with washer cleaner and blackish water was ejected from the pump. Another site suggests mildew under the drum . I am wondering if some oil from the unit is leaking in on a high spin cycle where the load is too full.
Brown spots indicates a bearing is breaking up, the spots are the grease from the bearing and as the seal breaks down due to the bearings going off centre, the grease gets in the drum. Get the bearings replaced if affordable.
This is a cronic problem of front loader machines. The two bearings that hold the wash drum are dried out and then they over heat. The heat build up weakens the seal that keeps water in and grease out starts to leak and the problem just becomes worse with every load. A service repair man will charge you the cost of a new machine to fix the unit. You can replace the bearings and seal with parts from a bearing supply store and if you do, only use bearings from Japan or Germany. Your machine came with ones from China and that is why these machines are failing after 4 years.
If it's gunk or build up the marks should wash away. In this case run a long cycle using "affresh" or "washer fresh" with an empty load and use the hottest water available to help rinse the gunk out.
If the marks do not wash away, it could be grease due to a bearing failure. Listen for loud growling or grinding either by spinning the drum by hand or putting it into a spin cycle. If this is the case, the rear tub assembly (contains bearing) will need to be replaced. Not much can be done about the ruined clothes :(