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Memory I have an older computer and some time back I had to have a new motherboard and several other Items installed in it. I decided I wanted to upgrade the memory. I found a site and run the scan to tell what kind of memory I would need. So I found out it would take 3-256 MB PC100 DImm 168 Pin. which would be a total of 768. My problem is when we installed them it only recognizes 2 of the memory cards, which is 512 total memory. We Have installed them One at a time to see which one it is not recognizing and the third slot seems to be the one. Is there something else I can do to see why this is happening? the Mother board is a Shuttle AI61. Thanks

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Ok well there could be a few things going on here. It is possible that A: your third stick is damaged which I'm assuming you dismissed through your installation of one at a time, B: the third dimm slot is damaged and is unusable, C: the dimm slot is turned off in your bios. 

Now looking at the Shuttle A161 motherboard it would appear you have a primary dimm slot and then expansion dimm slots (technically these are called the controller dimm slot and the estensions) 

The controller slot which is offeset from the other two should have your largest ram, make sure the ram you stick in this slot isn't a stick that requires dual recognition. Some ram is designed to work in a pair even in the early PC100 class ram. Most PC100 ram you'll find now requires the sticks to work in pairs and the ram is coded for this. (Especially since PC100 is on its way out very fast.) The expansion slots can be fitted with a pair that will work together. I doubt that your third and primary slot is turned off as it is the controller slot. If none of your ram works in this slot replace the old ram in to this slot and just use the two expansion slots. It may not be as much ram as you want but the motherboard has presets that are just problematic. 

My general advice however is, that if you're running this motherboard which is fairly out of date, I'd upgrade to a new computer. Buying a cheap Dell desktop or even a barebones off of newegg.com and transfering your current Harddrive and what not over would probably be easier for you and will carry you for the next five years or so.

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My computer has one long beep 2 short beeps, I put in new RAM and still does the same.


One, if I may; clean the gold plated contact pins with a pencil eraser, use air to remove the eraser dust. THEN try again before buying new Ram Memory.

(You are Following Anti-Static Precautions, right?)

Unplug the computer from power. Press the Power On button in, and hold for a count of 10 seconds. Let go.
Do this procedure two more times.

Plug the computer back into power.

What this does is clear CMOS Error Codes, and resets BIOS Setup back to the factory default settings.
We are just trying to clear CMOS Error Codes.

WAIT 1 minute, turn the computer on.

Still no?
'Slap' BIOS around a little bit.
Hold the Power On button in for a count of 10 seconds, or until computer turns off.
WAIT 1 minute, turn the computer back on.

I had to do this 3 times, one time, in order to get BIOS to recognize the new Ram Memory.

A) Ram Memory HAS to be in Slot 1. (DIMM 1)
That is the ram memory slot the Processor reads first.

Don't care about the other Ram Memory modules at the minute.
Just want to make sure a module is in Slot 1.

B) Are you SURE you have the correct Ram Memory?
There is a TOTAL amount for the motherboard, and EACH ram memory slot has a Maximum amount also.

Install in Slot 1 first. Try computer. If it works, then install ram memory in other ram memory slots.

No didn't work?
Then install in Slot 2.

You may find one of the ram memory slots is bad.

Regards,
joecoolvette

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Ihow to boot up and get display and set bios on msi motherboard g41m-e43


Add one item at a time.
First memory, then graphics card.

Plus you cleared CMOS Error Codes, and set the BIOS Setup parameters back to the factory default settings.

Guess what the default graphics setting is for an MSI G41ME43 motherboard?

Yep, AGP.

http://www.msi.com/product/mb/G41M-E43.html

[Wow, I like MFlash, and the solid Polymer capacitors.
Live BIOS Update 5, and Easy OC Switch.

However if the motherboard fails, I'll bet the Integrated Circuit, (I.C., or 'chipset'), that controls APS, is the first electronic component to go.

I would also watch OC'ing. Has to be done in incremental steps. Automatic feature or not. A 20 percent boost is A LOT.
Hardware components have as tendency to heat up.
Watch it as this lowers the 'life expectancy' of the chips.
Heat - 'Kills' ]

http://www.msi.com/product/mb/G41M-E43.html#/?div=Detail

Motherboard chipset:
Northbridge is an Intel 82G43. Southbridge chip is an Intel 82801GB part number. (ICH7) You can't see them as they are under Heatsinks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_intel_chipsets#Core_2_chipsets

Scroll down.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_intel_chipsets#Southbridge_9xx_and_3.2F4_Series_chipsets


Ram Memory:
Two ram memory slots for Dual Inline Memory Modules on the motherboard. (DIMM)

A) UNBUFFERED
B) 1.5 Volt (DC)
C) DDR3 Sdram at either 800MegaHertz, or 1066MHz.

[ This puzzled me. DDR3 Sdram at 800MegaHertz?
Why would anyone want to use DDR3 Sdram at 800MegaHertz?
Seems to me going backwards.

Faster frequency rates.
Low end for DDR3? 1066MHz.
High end for DDR2? 800MHz.

DDR3 is faster in comparison to DDR2 per se, because of the prefetch buffer. 8 burst deep compared to DDR2's 4 burst deep.
(Or DDR's 2 burst deep)

Not because of the CAS Latency, though.
DDR3 has a much higher CL, than compared to DDR2.

(Average CL for DDR3 at 1066MHz = 7-7-7-20
DDR2 = 5-5-5-15. Note* -> A-V-E-R-A-G-E. )

When using DDR3 Sdram at least use 1066MHz, IMHO
The maximum ram memory frequency rate, that your motherboard will support ]

So what manufacturer of ram memory is it, and what is the manufacturer code of the ram memory module/s? ('Stick')

JEDEC sets the standards for Ram Memory.
Voltage standard for DDR3 Sdram ram memory is 1.5 Volts (DC)
So the factory default setting is 1.5 Volts, for the motherboard.

However your motherboard supports SPD.
(Serial Presence Detect,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_presence_detect )

Point of the above?
If you are trying to use high-performance ram memory; say one needing a slightly higher voltage, and/or has lower CL ratings; then the SPD on the motherboard may make automatic adjustments.
(Adjustments to the parameters in your BIOS Setup)

May take 2 to 3 'Cold Boots', though.
(Turn the computer all the way off. Wait 1 minute. Turn the computer back on = Cold Boot)

I order for SPD to work, BOTH the motherboard, AND the ram memory, have to have SPD feature.
If the ram memory is too low in quality, (Read cheap), it may not have SPD.

Means you have to go into BIOS Setup, and set the ram memory parameters, manually.

[ Delete key to enter BIOS Setup.
Main BIOS Setup menu > Cell Menu > Memory Z > Advance DRAM configuration >
1) DRAM Timing Mode
2) CAS Latency
3) tRCD
4) tRP
5) tRAS
6) tRTP

Don't forget you have to SAVE changes, or it will be as if you have done nothing at all.

If a mistake is made;
Go back to BIOS Setup, and in the Main menu, use the Down Arrow key to arrive at Load Fail-Safe Defaults. IF -> OK is 'highlighted' (Black surround) press the Enter key. If not, use the Right Arrow key, or Left Arrow key, and highlight OK ]

The ram memory also has to be UNBUFFERED.

Unbuffered ram memory is the opposite of Registered ram memory.
Registered ram memory is more stable, usually one clock slower, and more expensive, than compared to unbuffered ram memory.

Registered ram memory is usually used in SERVER computers.

(A Server computer may look at information 2 or 3 times, before it acts on it. It needs to be C-O-R-R-E-C-T for a server computer )

"Cleared the board i believe"

Turned the computer off? Unplugged from power? Pressed the Power ON button in, and held it in for a count of 10 seconds? Then let go of the Power On button, then performed the entire procedure again, 2 more times?

{Clears CMOS Error Codes, and resets BIOS Setup back to the factory default settings}

You MAY have cleared the motherboard. It's what I use, and have recommended for years on the 'net. Doesn't mean it always works, though. Sometimes you just have to go into BIOS Setup, and set the parameters back to the factory default settings.

(For you? Load Fail-Safe Defaults )

A) Won't boot:
Because the ram memory is the wrong one, (Or ones); OR, the ram memory is high performance, and BIOS and SPD hasn't recognized it yet.

Remove the graphics card.(Computer unplugged from power. Anti-Static Precautions FOLLOWED!)
Remove the ram memory.

Reinstall the old ram memory, and plug the monitor into the VGA port, in the I/O area on the back of the computer tower.

Just get the computer working again. After about 10 minutes of fooling around on the computer, ('net?), turn the computer off.
Install the new 2GB.

(IF, just one ram memory module, be SURE to put it in Slot 1.
{DIMM 1} The ram memory slot closest to the Processor )

Leave the computer case open. You may be going back in pretty soon. (Graphics card)
WAIT 1 minute, then turn the computer on.

Joy?
If no joy shut the computer down. (Press the Power On button in, and hold it in for a count of 10 seconds)

WAIT 1 minute, turn the computer on.
If it doesn't work this time, you may wish to try it again.
Sometimes takes 2 to 3 times, before the high-performance ram memory is recognized.

You can also go into BIOS Setup, as mentioned, and physically set the ram parameters.
After 3 times I would give up however, and send the ram memory back. Wrong one/s.

If you get the new Ram Memory working, Cool!
If not remove it, and use the old ram memory.
Might as well get the computer going with the new graphics card, while you wait on the proper ram memory to arrive.

Did you plug the monitor into the graphics card?
Sometimes we computer geeks get in a wee bit of a hurry, when we get shiny new parts. Make sure the monitor cable is plugged into the graphics card.

There is another tiny thing; DRIVERS
If you did not use the Installation Disk (CD) first, THEN physically installed the graphics card, you are Wrong.

OR downloaded the drivers from EVGA.

What happens if you physically install a graphics card, THEN come back and install the drivers?
Most of the time a Driver Conflict.

Windows: "Which drivers do I use? These or THESE?"

Also sets BIOS Setup to the correct graphics aperture.

With the computer set back to the factory default settings, and the monitor plugged into the VGA port on the motherboard, you can get Windows running, and install, or download AND install, the Drivers.

ONCE the drivers, (And user interface -> Nvidia Control Panel), have been installed, you can then physically install the graphics card.

[Again; If you download the drivers, do NOT forget you have to go to where they are downloaded, and DOUBLE-click on the file, then use the Installation Wizard. (Or double-click on the .exe file)
INSTALL them! ]

Drivers installed, close all windows, go back to your desktop screen.
Turn the computer off. Unplug from power. FOLLOW Anti-Static Precautions. Physically install the graphics card. Plug the monitor into the graphics card. Plug the computer back into power. WAIT 1 minute, turn the computer on.

For additional questions please post in a Comment.
Regards,
joecoolvette

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Buy a new computer with more than 2 Gigs of RAM installed. Problem solved.


Otherwise I guess I simply don't understand why you would not want to remove the 2 smaller RAM modules and just replace them with larger capacity ones.


If you do decide to upgrade the memory, then one good and easy way to find out for sure how much RAM your computer can hold is to go to WWW.CRUCIAL.COM and run their SCAN MY COMPUTER feature.



This handy utility will scan your hardware configuration and tell you exactly how much RAM you currently have installed and what type it is.



It will also tell you how many RAM slots are fitted on your motherboard and what the maximum memory capacity is for each slot and the total capacity for that motherboard.



If your computer does have room to add more RAM, it will provide you with specific recommendations as to exactly what type and size of RAM stick to get to maximize the memory capacity and performance of your computer.



I hope that was helpful to you, good luck.

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