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Installing timer on existing electrical outlet

I'm putting a timer on an existing switch for a bathroom fan but the diagram in the manual does not match the wiring I have in my wall

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  • Anonymous Dec 05, 2008

    the switch Programmable Timer Switches leviton 6124h-w has 4 wires green, blue, black, and white. my switch was only 3 wires white,black and bare. how can i wire this

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    I have the same problem...

  • couch_pot235 Feb 07, 2009

    i have a similar problem.
    my current switch is at the end of the circuit, so i have a black and a white going to the switch.
    how would i hook up the 4 wire timer switch to the end of a 3 wire circuit?????

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Are the wires different colors or is there too many of one and not enough of the other. Your bathroom switch should have black which is hot, white which is neutral, and green or bare which is ground. It should be the same on the timer, but may differ. The instructions should tell which wire or terminal is hot, neutral and ground.

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Pretty easy if you can get the wires from the existing wall outlet. Just run a wire from existing outlet to the where you want the new light. Install inside an approved ceiling electrical outlet box and then run another wire to where you want the switch or switches. If you go to home depot or the library you can look at the books with diagrams on how to wire it. You can skip the wall switch if you use a light with a pull chain.

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11-1-12
Thanks for link to manual.
Solution might take more response for full clarity, and you seem a good electrician.
I have numbered two questions that may be unimportant.
Add a comment, response after 5 pm CST

Here is illustration showing Black Hot and White Neutral in attic junction box, as you described. With black-red-blue wires connected as shown in Broan manual. And each device connected to White neutral wire in junction box.
http://waterheatertimer.org/images/Triple-fan-light-night-light.jpg

You have access to attic, and can drop another cable down wall into switch box. This will give necessary total 4 wires between switch and Broan
http://waterheatertimer.org/OWB1.html

Key start point: Junction box in attic has the Black Hot wire and White neutral coming from circuit breaker box.
This cable powers the junction box.

There are 3 cables in junction box, each cable with black and white.
Cable from breaker box with Hot and Neutral. Cable going to light switch.
Another cable jumps power to next box in the circuit, and will be reconnected when finished, black-to-black white-to-white

Old light switch in wall was single pole.
1) How many cables are inside switch box? Just one cable from attic with black and white wire?
2) 3-way switch is the wrong switch, unless you mean 3-pole triple switch with 3 screw terminals on one side of device?

Here is another link that shows wiring choices if you decide to use 3 separate switches (or timers or occupancy sensor to turn on night light) instead of triple switch: Install triple box.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-switches.html#4-f

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My Icon bathroom fan does not work by timer I have changed timer , transformer and electrics have been checked (with certificate) What next !


Which timer do your have?
Not all timers work with fan motors?
Are you adding a new bath fan? Or are you installing a new timer?

What transformer what checked? A transformer is used to change voltage. For example you can plug a Malibu outdoor-light transformer into ordinary 120V outlet and the transformer changes voltage to 12 volts so you can safely operate lights stuck into the ground around bushes. Or your phone recharges using transformer that converts ordinary 120Volt into very low voltage entering your phone.
Practically every electronic device in your home has a transformer ... microwave, TV, computer ... but I don't know why a bath fan would have a transformer.
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http://waterheatertimer.org/Countdown-timer-horsepower-ratings.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-timers.html

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I nees 15 min. timer for my Newtone bathroom heater. I live zip code 94602 Oakland, Ca. Where to find. Thanks


You need "15 minute countdown timer" for a bath fan.

1) Following page shows selection of timer types and brands:
http://waterheatertimer.org/Countdown.html
There are push button electronic types and rotary dial types.

2) Easiest to wire is mechanical spring type countdown timer, FD series.
No electronics that can be affected by 'electric noise' on fan circuit.
Intermatic spring-wound last for years without problem.
http://www.electricsupplyonline.com/prod/intermatic-springwound_timers.php

http://www.electricsupplyonline.com/prod/intermatic-springwound_timers/fd15mc_w005485.php

3) Another reliable timer is GE 15088 sold at Home Depot.
Timer has preset for 20 minutes, not 15
http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/

4) Amazon sells reliable 15 minute Intermatic electronic countdown:
http://www.1000bulbs.com/product/3293/ELEC-EI200LA.html?utm_source=SmartFeedAmazonProduct

5) Timex sells 15 minute spring wound countdown timer. Lower price is probably with reason since Timex are generally sold in drug store/dollar store rather than hardware/electric outlets.
http://www.amazon.com/Timex-Minute-Springwound-Countdown-Timer/dp/B00013K69Q

6) Spring wound timers connect easily to same wires that come off old fan switch.
Old switch has 2 insulated wires, connect them to either terminal on spring wound timer.

7) Electronic timers are wired differently:
Instructions for wiring electronic timers appears on following link:
http://waterheatertimer.org/GE-timers-and-manuals.html#15088

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1) In this situation we need to test the wires.
Electricians don't guess, they test, and a diagram would be guessing which wire color does what.

2) FYI: non-GFCI receptacle located in bathroom is not code, and device will have to be replaced when property is sold. The reason for GFCI is the likelihood of you holding defective electrical gizmo from China in one hand while putting other hand in running water. Or electrical gizmo falling into bathtub occupied by wife with large life insurance policy.
If you have kids using that bathroom, I want you to avoid using non-GFCI device.

3) Your new device has color-coded screws: Dark, brass, and silver.
These colors tell electrician how to wire the device.

4) Let's test to see which wire connects to which screw:
Separate wires.
Use ordinary 2-wire tester from hardware store.
Tape tester leads to wood sticks so hands are away from power.
Turn power ON.
Test each wire to bare ground wire.
Tester lights up on Hot wire. Hot wire connects to dark-colored screw on device.
Hot wire is identified.
Test Hot wire to all other wires in box, except bare ground wire.
Tester lights up on Neutral wire. Neutral wire connects to silver screw, and will complete circuit to receptacle.
If box does not have a Neutral wire, the circuit to receptacle can be completed using ground wire on silver screw, but I am not recommending that.
Last wire goes to Load (light, fan, motor). Load wire connects to brass screw, and will complete circuit to Load.

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Sure George.

These in-wall timers have extra wire to operate the electronics located inside timer.
You said your old switch has 3 wires.
The new timer can only replace on-off switch that has 2 brass screws and a green screw.
If old switch has 2 brass screws and a dark screw, that is a 3-way switch.
Typically a 3-way switch is found at both ends of hallway.
The Woods 95008 countdown timer is not made to replace 3-way:
http://waterheatertimer.org/Woods-timers-and-manuals.html#59000

Here's what to do:
1) Switch has 2 wires (plus bare ground wire). Take switch wires and connect them to timer-black-wire and timer-red-wire. Choose either one for now.
2) In back of electric box are white wires twisted together and covered with wire nut. Connect timer-white to these wires. This wire will power timer electronics.
3) If electric box does not have white wires described above, then connect timer-white to bare ground, along with timer-green wire.
4) Turn on electricity, and push override button located below the OFF button. If lights come on, timer is wired correctly. If lights do not come on, then reverse timer-red and timer-black wires.

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You connected red and white wires together.
No problem, nothing burned out, and it's simple to fix. Steps below.

RT1 is electronic countdown timer, and electronic timer clock inside needs separate circuit, just like your alarm clock needs to be plugged in. >> that's why timer has white wire. White wire completes circuit to timer clock.

Manual says:
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3) In back of electric box are white wires twisted together and covered with wire nut. Connect timer-white to these wires.
4) If electric box does not have white wires described above, then connect timer-white to bare ground.
5) Turn on electricity, and push countdown button. If lights come on, timer is wired correctly. If lights do not come on, then reverse timer-red and timer-black wires.

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The reset button is small round button and can be pushed with toothpick or paper clip.
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Also check all breakers to make sure one isn't tripped.
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Add a comment and say if this is new installation or if timer suddenly stopped functioning.

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You probably can't get the existing mechanical timer to operate any quietier, since it's old and likely starting to wear out. You can either swap the timer out for a new automatic digital timer, or install a standard single pole switch in its' place.

I believe the code you refer to regarding the fan having to be wired onto a timer switch was a local requirement from many years ago.

Some local jurisdictions have impossed more stringent requirements, but frankly, having an exhaust fan is normally a good idea. If the fan is vented into the attic space, it can cause some serious problems in cold weather with condesation of the warm, moist exhaust air.

Building Code requires that bath fans be piped/vented to the outside of the house and not into the attic space.

There are newer preset timer switches that will turn on the exhaust fan for a fixed amount of time, based on which button you push. These are great as they will run the fan long enough to remove condensation from showers, etc.

If you're going to replace the timer, disconnect or turn off the breaker or power to the switch. Then simply install a new timer or switch by connecting the black supply wire to the bottom of the single pole switch, or to one of the black leads of the timer. Then connect the black wire going to the fan to the top screw on the single pole switch, or the other lead on the new timer. The white (neutral) wires should already be connected with a wire nut inside the box. Connect the ground wire to the ground wire in the box and if the switch box is metal, attach the ground wire to the box with a green grounding screw too.

You can now operate the fan with either a manual on/off switch or the new digital timer, whichever you chose to install.

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