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You would be best off reading this: http://arstechnica.com/articles/paedia/hardware/pcie.ars/1 But more simply put, your computer needs a PCI express slot.

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What is the PCI speed?


I think the question is which pci slots do you have. You have PCI. You do NOT have PCI Express.. to confirm, see picture here:
Conventional PCI

PCI Express Has MUCH smaller connectors and several speeds

PCI Express is not to be confused with PCI-X
A pix will help:

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Various slots on a computer motherboard, from top to bottom:
  • PCI Express ×4
  • PCI Express ×16
  • PCI Express ×1
  • PCI Express ×16
  • Legacy PCI (32-bit, 5 V)

Aug 07, 2015 | HP Pavilion a340n (DQ099AABA) PC Desktop

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I need a vedeo card that supports ecs livermore8


The Motherboard is considered the 'Building Block' of the computer.

From it all hardware components are supported.

Processor, Ram Memory, Harddrive, Optical Drive/s, and add-on expansion slot cards.

A graphics card (Video Card) being one.

You need a graphics card that the ECS 945GCT-HM,
or also stated as HP's Livermore8-GL6; will support.

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01237572&lc=en&cc=pt&product=3632125#N33

The motherboard chipset is an Intel 945GC,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_intel_chipsets#Core_2_chipsets

According to Intel came out the first quarter of 2005,

http://ark.intel.com/products/34505/Intel-82945GC-Graphics-and-Memory-Controller

The year PCI Express 1.1 technology came out.
PCI Express 2.0 technology didn't come out until 2007,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express#PCI_Express_1.1

Will the ECS 945GCT-HM support graphics cards based on the PCI Express 2.0 technology?

YES!

PCI Express 2.0 technology IS backward compatible, with PCI Express 1.1 technology.

You just won't get the full capability of the PCI Express graphics card; based on the PCI Express 2.0 technology.

Will you notice? Doubtful.

From what I have seen listed in reviews on the graphics card, I would not suggest a graphics card based on the PCI Express 2.1 technology.
Reviews suggest it doesn't 'play well' with a motherboard using the PCI Express 1.1 technology.

There is another thing to consider; Power Supply

Most decent graphics cards require a minimum Power Supply wattage, of 400 to 450 Watts.

This Power Supply requirement isn't just for the graphics card.
Graphics card manufacturers base it on a test computer system.
One they put together with a powerful Processor, high performance motherboard, 2GB's of Ram Memory (At least), optical drive/s, harddrive, and the graphics card. (Plus allowance for computer case fans, etc)

If you're running a 300 Watt power supply, this = No.

(Yes, even though AMD ATI Radeon graphics cards, are touted to use less power; 400 to 450 Watts is still the limit for a decent graphics card, from them. Unless you want to run a simpy PCI expansion slot graphics card, or budget/starter, PCI Express graphics card)

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4501123&CatId=7387

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2555929&CatId=7387

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joecoolvette

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5344843&Sku=T925-3014

Dec 25, 2012 | ECS 100% Ok 945gct-hm Motherboard...

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I have a ASRock CONROE1333-DVI/H R2 motherboard and i wanted to know if i could use a graphics card that requires a pci express 2.0 slot


Absolutely!

The AsRock Conroe1333-DVI/H R2 mobo uses PCI-Express 1.1 technology. It's in the Intel 945G motherboard chipset.

http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=CONROE1333-DVI/H

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_intel_chipsets#Pentium_4.2FPentium_D.2FPentium_EE_chipsets

Scroll down to bottom of chart. 945G made in 2005.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express

Scroll down to History and revisions.
PCI Express 2.0 -> 15 January 2007

A graphics card based on the PCI Express 2.0 technology, will work on a motherboard based on the PCI express 1.1 technology.

Why?

Because PCI Express 2.0 technology is Backward Compatible, with PCI Express 1.1 technology.

You just won't get the full capability of the PCI Express 2.0 graphics card.
Will you notice? NO

PCI Express 1.0a, and PCI Express 1.1, operate with a per-lane data rate of 250MegaBytes per Second. (250MB/s)
Transfer rate of 2.5Gigabits per Second. (2.5Gb/s)

PCI Express 2.0 operates with a 500MB/s per-lane data rate.
Transfer rate of 5.0Gb/s.

Make SURE you have Windows running, then install the software for the graphic card -> F-I-R-S-T, then physically install the graphics card.
(Computer unplugged from power, Anti-Static Precautions -> FOLLOWED)

The computer will not use the graphics cards software, UNTIL the graphics card is installed.
It will keep on using the integrated graphics on the motherboard, until the graphics card is installed.

Means get the motherboard going first, use it's integrated graphics.
Install software for graphics card, and then Physically install the graphics card.
(Don't forget to attach the monitor cable to the graphics card, lol!)

For additional questions please post in a Comment.

Regards,
joecoolvette

Sep 08, 2012 | Computers & Internet

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Which video card do i use in a vcg rb50


Dear,
you have pci express slot that supports high graphic card. You can buy a high graphic vga card but it relates with your power supply too. Check your power supply wattage and then buy the vga card accordingly because high graphic vga card require more power from supply.

There are alot of pci slot supported card in the market.

best of luck!

Mar 18, 2012 | Sony VAIO VGC-RB38G PC Desktop

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WHAT GRAPHICS CARDS ARE COMPATIBLE WITH THE AVERATEC ALL-IN-ONEDESTOP PC'S?


1) It has an Intel G35 Express motherboard chipset,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_intel_chipsets#Core_2_chipsets

Under the - Chipset heading on the left, scroll down to - G35

Note that under the - Graphics heading, all the way to the right, that the Intel G35 Express chipset;

1) Will support a PCI-Express x16 expansion slot. This means a PCI-Express graphics card can be used, IF, there is a PCI-Express x16 slot on the motherboard.

[ PCI-Express is a technology. The current PCI-Express technology is PCI-Express 2.0

There is a PCI-Express x1 expansion slot, and a PCI-Express x16 expansion slot. (Not relating to Your computer at the moment)

The PCI-Express x1 slot is Not used for a graphics card.
The PCI-Express x16 slot IS,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express ]

2) Has Intel GMA X3500 Integrated Graphics.
Meaning if there is NO graphics card installed right now, the computer is using Integrated Graphics, (Intel GMA X3500,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_GMA#GMA_X3500

Now,...you are essentially working on a laptop with a touchscreen.
Once you remove the 10 screws from the Back Cover, and remove the cover, you are looking at the exposed circuitry of the computer.

You NEED to follow Anti-Static Precautions. This cannot be performed as on a regular desktop computer. Touching the metal frame (Of the unplugged from power computer) will do you No good.

You need to use an ESD wrist strap, and connect it's alligator clip to a good ground source. [ Electro Static Discharge]

Your body carries Static electricity. Static WILL fry out (Short Circuit) the delicate hardware components inside a computer.

With the Back Cover off the manufacturer knows all of the hardware components are exposed. This means the person working on the computer should be aware of Static issues, and use proper tools.

The average consumer is not aware of this. This is why only a ram memory upgrade is recommended by the manufacturer. (Before they went out of business)

This is why there are no service manuals released, also.
Only for the qualified authorized service techs.

So,...let's look together. See if there is a PCI-Express x16 slot, for one.
It can be any color. Will be longer than any other expansion slot on the motherboard. The PCI slots (Usually white) are not as long.
(164 contact pins. 82 on each side)

These examples of a PCI slot, and versions of a PCI-Express slot, are all the same color. (Yellow) Not usual for a desktop computer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PCIExpress.jpg

The top example is an example of a PCI-Express x4 slot.
Hardly EVER used, I didn't mention it.
Has 64 contact pins. 32 on each side.

The next slot down is an example of a PCI-Express x16 slot.
164 contact pins. 82 on each side.

Next down is an example of a PCI-Express x1 slot.
36 contact pins. 18 on each side.

Next down is another example of a PCI-Express x16 slot.

Last example is an example of a PCI slot. TOTALLY different technology than PCI-Express.
124 contact pins. 62 on each side. (Unless PCI that is 64-bit)

IF, there is a PCI-Express x16 slot on the motherboard, you can use PCI-Express 1.1 or 2.0 graphics cards.

You need to be concerned with;

A) How much height is available for the graphics card, and how much length? Check the measurements inside the computer. Match to dimensions of the graphics cards you are looking at.

B) How much POWER does the graphics card require? It's in the Minimum Requirements stated for the graphics card.
How much power is available to the all-in-one computer?

This could be an instant stopping block.

AMD ATI Radeon graphics cards generally use less power, than a comparable Nvidia graphics card.

C) Worried about your computer per se uses DDR Sdram ram memory, and the graphics card uses GDDR3 ram memory? (Just an example. Not directly related to Your computer)

Don't be. Doesn't matter what graphics memory a graphics card uses.

The graphics card does Not rely on the system resources (Processor and Ram Memory) of the computer.
A graphics card has it's own Processor, (GPU. Graphics Processing Unit), and graphics ram memory.

For additional questions, or to have me explain in further detail, or to clarify, post in a Comment.

Regards,
joecoolvette

Feb 26, 2012 | HP Presario Computers & Internet

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Hi, Is Asus ATI Radeon HD6450 Silence 1GB DDR3 VGA/DVI/HDMI Low Profile PCI-Express Video Card capable for my Compaq HP Presario SR2020NX? -thanks a lot.


You mean will the Asus ATI Radeon HD6450 with 1GB of graphics memory, work in a Compaq Presario SR2020NX Desktop PC?

Yes.

The Compaq Presario SR2020NX Desktop PC has a PCI-Express x16 expansion slot.

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c00757470&tmp_task=prodinfoCategory&cc=us&dlc=en&lang=en&lc=en&product=3245048

{Motherboard illustration and photo are towards the bottom of the page}

Look at the specifications.
Scroll down to the heading - Expansion slots.

Three PCI. (PCI expansion slots)

One PCI Express x16 graphics.

NOTE*
Looking at the motherboard illustration, it is Wrong.
Shows - PCIEX1 (PCI E X1)
According to the specifications it is a PCIEX16 expansion slot. (PCI-E x16)

A PCI-Express x1 slot has 36 contact pins. 18 on each side.

In comparison a PCI slot {White} has 124 contact pins. 62 on each side.

Looking at the photo of the supposed PCI-E x1 slot they show, the black PCI-Ex1 slot is longer than the white PCI slots.

It is a PCI-Express x16 slot with 164 pins. 82 on each side.



The Asus ATI Radeon HD6450 uses a PCI-Express x16 expansion slot.

So you know the graphics card will fit. Low-profile to boot.

Power requirement:
The Compaq Presario SR2020NX desktop computer comes with a 300 Watt power supply.
(Although in actuality it's more like 70 percent of the maximum rated wattage. 210 Watts)

Enough power for the computer, and the graphics card.
ATI graphics cards do not use as much power as a comparable Nvidia graphics card.

Concerned that the Asus graphics card uses DDR3 graphics ram memory, and the Presario SR2020NX uses DDR2 Sdram ram memory?

Don't be. The graphics cards graphics memory runs independent of the computer's ram memory.

Information on PCI-Express,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI-Express

For additional questions please post in a Comment.
(Top right of your page, blue Comment)

Regards,
joecoolvette

Sep 15, 2011 | HP Compaq Presario SR2020NX PC Desktop

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What video card are compatable with SR1620NX ? The graphics card is not working right anymore and I need a compatable video card.


A PCI Express graphics card.

Doesn't matter if the PCI Express graphics card uses the PCI Express 2.0 technology, or the PCI Express 2.1 technology.

The PCI Express graphics card, will insert into the PCI Express x16 expansion slot on the motherboard.


Supporting data;

1) View of the motherboard in an illustration,

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c00378480&tmp_task=prodinfoCategory&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&lang=en&product=1127351

Scroll down the page to view the motherboard illustration.

A) Looking at the illustration, view the BATT. (CMOS Battery)

To the left of the CMOS Battery (BATT) are three white PCI slots.
Above them is a longer expansion slot. This is the PCI Express x16 slot.

Above it is marked > PCIX16X1 (PCI x16 times 1 slot)


NOTE* When installing the PCI Express graphics card, lift up gently on the Lock 'handle'.
It looks as though you should push down on it, but you need to lift up on it instead.


Also go above the motherboard illustration, and read to the right of the heading > Internal Connectors

In the list you will see > One PCI Express x16 graphics slot.


WHEN installing a graphics card, ALWAYS install the software from the CD disk provided, First!

Computer on, and Windows running, insert the graphics card's Installation disk, (CD) into the optical drive tray.
Install the software by following the directions.

THEN shut the computer down normally, and unplug the computer from power.
OBSERVE Anti-Static Precautions.
Install the graphics card.
Close the computer case, and plug the monitor into the graphics card.

Turn the computer on.

When you install a device (Such as a graphics card for example), Windows will try to find compatible drivers.
IF, THE driver is not installed First, Windows will match up one of it's thousands of generic drivers.

This = No.

You want THE driver installed first, so that Windows will find it, and Not try to match on of it's generic drivers.

NOTE 2*
It DOESN'T MATTER what graphics ram memory the graphics card has.
The graphics card's Processor and Ram Memory operates independent of the system resources.

Example:
The computer uses DDR Sdram ram memory.
The graphics card uses GDDR5 graphics ram memory.

It will work just fine.

NOTE 3*
It does NOT matter if your computer uses the PCI Express 1.1 technology, and the graphics card uses the PCI Express 2.0, or 2.1 technology.

PCI Express 2.0, and 2.1 technology is Backward Compatible with PCI Express 1.1 technology.

Will you get the full capability of the PCI Express 2.0, or 2.1 graphics card?
NO

Will you notice?
NO


What you need to look at it, is how much power will the graphics card use. Look at the system requirements for the graphics card, and be sure your Power Supply has enough power for that graphics card.

Also, IF, the graphics card requires additional power cables from the Power Supply, make sure your Power Supply has the required power cable, or power cables.
IF the Power Supply does not, use a power adapter cable.


NOTE 4*
Graphics card manufacturer's base the power needed for the graphics card, Not just on the graphics card itself, but on an entire computer system, AND the graphics card.

The graphics card manufacturers use a test computer system, that is a powerful computer system.
Gamer motherboard, Dual Core, or Quad Core processor, 4GB of ram memory, and at least two harddrives, and two optical drives, PLUS the graphics card in question.

This complete computer system uses a LOT more power than just the graphics card by itself.

There isn't a single graphics card out there, that uses more than 150 Watts by itself.

Recommendations for a graphics card that is compatible, with a Compaq Presario SR1620nx desktop computer?

Budget to medium:
Good enough to watch videos, older games, and some newer games.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4675217&CatId=3670

Medium:
Higher level games, and large screen monitors,

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6642574&CatId=3669

For questions post in a Comment.

Regards,
joecoolvette

Dec 18, 2010 | HP Compaq Presario SR1620NX...

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Upgrading graphics card


This is eMachines Support, and the specifications page for the eMachines C6535 desktop computer,

http://www.emachines.com/support/product_support.html?cat=Desktops&subcat=C%20Series&model=C6535

Scroll down the list until you come to the Video heading.

You'll see - PCI Express (PCI-E x16) slot available

This means you have a PCI Express x16 graphics slot on the motherboard, and it is open, and available.

You can use a PCI Express graphics card.

Two things I would like to note.

1) You need to check the System Requirements of the PCI Express graphics card you're going to buy, and see if your System Resources are able to support it.

The main thing you need to look for here, is what power is required for the graphics card.

Does your Power Supply have the necessary Wattage?

Not only does your Power Supply have to be able to deliver the necessary power for the computer system resources (Processor, Ram Memory, etc), it also has to be able to deliver enough power for THAT graphics card.

Since eMachines Support doesn't list the power of the Power Supply, I searched online for a Power Supply replacement for the C6535.

Seems the C6535 comes with a 300 Watt power supply.
Problem is, back in the day the C6535 was made, power supply manufacturers were 'Fudging' the true maximum Wattage, that their power supply's were truly able to deliver.

A more realistic figure, is 70 percent of the maximum rated Wattage stated.
This would be 210 Watts.

Therefore, you're going to need a better power supply, to support any of the really decent PCI Express graphics cards out there.

2) PCI Express came out in 2004.
PCI Express is a technology.

The PCI Express technology has gone through three major changes, or upgrades, since it came out.

A) PCI Express 1.0 version
B) PCI Express 1.1 version
C) PCI Express 2.0 version

PCI Express graphics cards now, are made in the PCI Express 2.0 version.

You can use a PCI Express 2.0 graphics card in a computer with PCI Express 1.1 technology.

PCI Express 2.0 is Backward Compatible with the PCI Express 1.1 technology.

Your computer uses the PCI Express 1.1 technology.

If you use a PCI Express 2.0 graphics card in a computer with PCI Express 1.1 technology, you won't get the full capability of the PCI Express 2.0 graphics card.

Will you notice?
NO
We haven't begun to fully use all the bandwidth of the PCI Express 1.1 technology yet, much less PCI Express 2.0

(PCI Express 3.0 technology is just around the corner, and getting ready to be used on newer graphic cards. Marketing strategy)

Have any further questions concerning this, please post in a Comment.
JCV

Information on PCI Express,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express

May 18, 2010 | E-Machines eMachines Desktop PC

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Video chip location on computer board


If this is a direct reference to the Dell Dimension 5150 Desktop computer, it is an Intel GMA950 integrated graphics chip, soldered to the motherboard.

You will see Intel at the top of the chip, and GMA950 under Intel.

This is Dell Support, and the Service Manual for the Dell Dimension 5150/E510 Desktop computer.

More specifically this is the Specifications Documentation, and the Technical Overview part of the Service Manual,

http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim5150/en/sm/techov1.htm#wp1058472

I referenced this page, to show you the basic components on the motherboard. Click on the sub-heading - System Board Components, in the list.

At the top of the motherboard you will see the processor sitting diagonally.

Under it you will see the Northbridge chipset, and more specifically in this crude illustration, you are looking at the heatsink which resides on the Northbridge chipset.

(Has a Z shaped clip which holds the heatsink to the Northbridge chipset. The heatsink has a 'meat cleaver' type of design)

In the area that is blank to the Left of the Battery, will be the Intel GMA950 GPU.
(GPU = Graphics Processing Unit, or graphics chip)

If you are wanting to upgrade your graphics quality, purchase a graphics card, and install it in the PCI Express x16 slot.
{In the illustration the slot is over to the Left.
PCI Express x16 connector (Slot 1)

How to know what graphics card is compatible with your computer?

1.You have a PCI Express x16 slot for a graphics card. This is the style of graphics card you need.

It is the PCI Express 1.1 version technology used. I wanted to add this in case you need it for reference.

Be aware of this! No matter what anyone tells you, you can use a PCI Express graphics card based on the PCI Express 2.0 technology, in your PCI Express 1.1 slot.

Why?
Because PCI Express 2.0 technology is Backwards Compatible with PCI Express 1.1 technology.

Backwards Compatible. Means it will recognize the PCI Express graphics card utilizing PCI-E 2.0, and will work.

2.You have a 305 Watt power supply. You need to have enough Wattage, (Power), for the computer system, and the graphics card.

I advise using an ATI Radeon graphics card. Which one? Since you have a Pentium 4 processor, 305 Watt power supply,
(With all probability a 18 Amp, 12 volt power rail),
I suggest something along the lines of an ATI Radeon HD3850.

Depends on what you expect from your graphics.

If your reference in your query above is that you believe your graphics chip may be burned out, then I definitely suggest using a graphics card.

The PCI Express x16 slot is controlled by the Northbridge chipset. Doesn't matter if your Integrated Intel GMA950 GPU is burned out, or not.

Oct 12, 2009 | Dell Dimension 5150 (DIM515MIN) PC Desktop

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Re:


Hi dellyster, you have two options. You can buy and install either a PCI graphics card or an PCI Express 1x graphics card. The PCI Express 1x graphics card will run a bit faster than the standard PCI slot. Click this link for a look at some PCI Express 1x graphics cards:
http://www.nextag.com/pci-express-x1-graphics-card/shop-html

For a look at some PCI graphics cards try this link:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_slc.asp?CatId=319&name=PCI-Video-Cards&

If you do not have the manual for the Intel D915GVWB motherboard, you can download it directly from Intel at this link:
http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/D915GVWB/index.htm

Please read page 18, PCI and PCI Express Auto Configuration.

Good luck dellyster!
Mike

Nov 20, 2008 | Intel D915GVWB 915GV Chipset 800MHz FSB...

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