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Generator fuel-oil mixture

I have a Coleman Powermate 1000 generator part no. pm0301010. It takes a specific gas-oil mixture and I can not find anyone who can tell me what it is. Coleman has been NO help to me.

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  • six8rhino Sep 05, 2008

    Powermate does not answer phone, and they dont show my model in there information.



  • six8rhino Sep 06, 2008

    Bad website url I am told also. I am doomed.

  • six8rhino Sep 06, 2008

    Frank,
    It appears that you have become offended. I added the comment about being doomed when, after attempting to call the Powermate phone number provided 6 times Thursday and 5 times Friday and getting either no answer or a busy signal, NO answer from the customer service email address, and finding out that I am only able to download a pdf formatted parts diagram from the internet, I felt a little lost.
    My genset runs more quiet than my friends Honda eu2000, both to the host of people who attended a "powers out" party and according to a local professors db meter by two db's. I will not be getting rid of it! My ex-neighbor had a 55 gallon drum of mixed gas in his garage (lawn care business). He moved this past spring, my 5 gallon gas can was emptied during use after a tornado darkened our streets for three days. I did not know what gas mix he used, so I could not duplicate it on my own, a week of looking for answers on the internet led me to this site for answers.
    I will not bother you any further.


  • six8rhino Sep 07, 2008

    Well,...... I guess I hit a very sensitive nerve. You are obviously a more qualified, very highly sought after, and well paid consultant.

    I am simply a person requesting some information. You certainly have much better, and more lucrative things that need to be addressed. Why you would waste your seemingly precious time on helping the common wage earning citizen is confusing to me.

    Maybe FixYa should look into proper compensation to meet your highly prized intelligence, they are surely blessed to have such a valuable consultant to answer questions for us peasants, We simple minded souls that, in a time of need, seek answers from those who have a different point of view, should bow our heads in the glow of greatness, displayed by the mental giants such as yourself.

    My job?

    Maybe, I am a Sgt. 1st. Class in the National Guard looking to put my life back together after a messy divorce while I was overseas.

    Maybe, I am a professor at a local college, with a student structure of 25 students per class, 4 times a day.

    Maybe I won a silver medal in the special olympics, due to an injury that left me in a wheelchair, and due to this setback, my 38 lb. genset is suitable for allowing me to start it while seated, and a newer, bigger or more "manufacture proper" set would be more acceptable to your political views.

    Maybe I am a "secret shopper" hired by FixYa, to police their "PROFESSIONAL" assistants in asking common questions.

    Thank you for inserting your political views two times into your answers, it is noted that you have an extremely high dislike for a certain political GOP party member identified by a "W". I was unaware that this question and answer site was also utilized for a professional consultants view on his dislike for this country's elected officials.

    If my 1 question qualifies me as being compared to your 80+ year old father, due to your inability to deal with my disgust with the company that is supposed to offer support... Then I guess I am resigned to be compared to a man who has lived long past the national average, and only warrants mentioning in your political and self centered $6 reply.

    Do any of these matter? To you, I doubt it, You obviously make more than enough money in your multi-million dollar Fortune 500 company, that I am sure you use this site to promote your political views, rather than assist those who cannot afford the outragous fee's imposed by a professional consultant. I do not forsee using FixYa at any time in the future, or suggesting anyone else to. This decision is based on a consultants point of view, yours, one that was unsolictated and unappreciated.






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My manual for my Powermate 1000 says 18:1 fuel mixture.

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First of all -<br>
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</big></big><big><big>DO NOT CALL COLEMAN</big></big><br>

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You will need to contact Powermate directly (see below), and give them
the CORRECT model # info that you have there on that Genset.<br>
<br>Certain models are no longer available - as
they have been discontinued - and only by contacting Powermate directly
will you get the proper Operators Manual.<br>
<br>
There should be no charge for this, and most likely it will be a PDF download sent by their service dept.<br>
<br></big></big><big><big>If your Powermate 1000 generator part #
PM-0301010 is correct then you should be able to get a quick &amp;
exact Fuel/Oil MIXTURE ratio from the Tech Support Dept there.<br>
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It should be very close to a 40:1 ratio (64oz gas : 1.6oz oil) if youare using Powermate's custom blend oil - or a 20:1 ratio</big></big><big><big>(64oz gas : 3.2ozoil)</big></big><big><big>
if you are using anyone else's 2-stroke oil. Never go any higher then a
35 to 40:1 ratio no matter what 2-cycle engine equipment you are using
even if you are unsure of the fuel/oil mixture needed, and never go
below a 20:1 ratio when using others 2-cycle oil, as then you may foul
out the spark plug(s) and possibly clog the muffler!!<br>
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Please post me a reply as to finding this solution being the best
resolve to your missing Operators Manual problem by following the
company references &amp; links below. Also please rate my
troubleshooting fix as well.<br>
<br>
Keep me posted and I'll follow up as well.<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
<br>
Frank<br>
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  • Frank JR
    Frank JR Sep 05, 2008


    First of all -



    DO NOT CALL COLEMAN






    You will need to contact Powermate directly (see below), and give them
    the CORRECT model # info that you have there on that Genset.


    Certain models are no longer available - as
    they have been discontinued - and only by contacting Powermate directly
    will you get the proper Operators Manual.



    There should be no charge for this, and most likely it will be a PDF download sent by their service dept.


    If your Powermate 1000 generator part #
    PM-0301010 is correct then you should be able to get a quick &
    exact Fuel/Oil MIXTURE ratio from the Tech Support Dept there.



    It should be very close to a 40:1 ratio (64oz gas : 1.6oz oil) if you are using Powermate's custom blend oil - or a 20:1 ratio (64oz gas : 3.2oz oil)
    if you are using anyone else's 2-stroke oil. Never go any higher then a
    35 to 40:1 ratio no matter what 2-cycle engine equipment you are using
    even if you are unsure of the fuel/oil mixture needed, and never go
    below a 20:1 ratio when using others 2-cycle oil, as then you may foul
    out the spark plug(s) and possibly clog the muffler!!




    Please post me a reply as to finding this solution being the best
    resolve to your missing Operators Manual problem by following the
    company references & links below. Also please rate my
    troubleshooting fix as well.



    Keep me posted and I'll follow up as well.



    Best regards,



    Frank






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    Email:





    At productservice@powermate.com and a service representative will personally respond to your inquiry





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  • Frank JR
    Frank JR Sep 06, 2008

    six8rhino



    I already gave you the proper GAS/OIL ratio, so I'm not sure what else
    you are seeking, but if you need a manual or any other ??'s answered
    read this new FOLLOW-UP info below as well.



    No small engine 2-stroke engine as old as yours is that critical
    anyway. Cheaper smaller 2-stroke engine technology has never reached
    rocket science level - only except for Marine Outboard Engines which
    are all at the cutting edge of advanced rocket science technology -
    computer controlled and all. Yours - just like with my older 2-strokes
    are just Plain Jane by comparison, and a dime a dozen! My 25 year old
    McCulloch 2-stroke chainsaw & leaf blower & weed whacker all
    run just great on a 20 or 25:1 gas/oil mix, and I never buy the brand
    name mix oil as it's a waste of money, and way over-priced to start
    with. After-market 2-stroke oil brands work just fine, and it's been
    proven a 1000 times over that it's usually (almost always) the gas that
    will ruin any 2-stroke engine if it's STALE to start with!! Varnish
    & gum will ruin any engine and/or Carb esp small 2-stroke engines.
    That is a proven FACT!



    Anyway - If Powermate was giving you some supposed special gas/oil
    ratio mix then they were no doubt just trying to be falsely proprietary
    and that may be exactly why they are now bankrupt. You think?



    After all - if all 2-stroke scooters use a 32:1 gas/oil mix, and the
    torque load on those engines is just as severe if not more so severe
    then your little 1000W Genset there (which btw is nothing in comparison
    to a scooter) - then what is to be so worried about there?? I just
    can't imagine?? Has to be more to it here at FIX-IT then you are
    seeking info for?



    As a rule:



    80:1 Exotic 2-stroke engines (not very common at all)



    50:1 custom Mfr Only oil mixes for most 2-stroke Outboard engines with
    cmptr controls using Mfr recommended brand(s) with an NMMA (National
    Marine Manufacturers Association) certified rating of TCW3



    50:1 custom Mfr Only oil mixes for most 2-stroke pocket bikes using Mfr recommended brand 2-stroke oil (esp at new break-in)




    40:1 custom Mfr Only oil mixes for all 2-stroke small engines using Mfr only brand of 2-stroke oil (esp at new break-in)



    25:1 oil mixes for most 2-stroke pocket bikes using generic brands of 2-stroke oils




    20:1 oil mixes for all 2-stroke small engines using generic brands of 2-stroke oils



    If I were you I would dump that outdated 2-stroke Genset and get a more
    efficient & quieter 4-stroke Genset which has obvious advantages
    that far outweigh a 2-stroke any day. The biggest one being - the major
    line 4-stroke Genset companies out there are all still in business
    today, and getting service for your 4-stroke is no problem at all.
    Don't know what else I can tell you if you still want to hang on to
    that 2-stroker.



    If you have other ??'s follow the added info below and good luck to you in whatever you decide to do.



    Best regards,



    Frank



    FOLLOW-UP ON POWERMATE 1000 & 5000 GENSET



    A follow-up to my original post here with some added Powermate info
    that hopefully will get you an Operator's Manual (and more) for all your Powermate
    Gensets out there if you follow-up on the info here.



    As you are now hopefully but painfully aware - Powermate has gone
    totally Bankrupt, and is no longer in business as of this past year or
    so.



    There is hope though - as I state below in the Footnote:



    Footnote: It's too late now for all those
    out there that
    unfortunately bought these now still Brand New "unservicealbe"
    Powermate units that won't start for whatever, whether still Brand New
    "NIB", or whether taken out of the box and still not used, and are
    now seeking some kind of service on them (btw it's a sign of the
    present day GOP ran economic woes we are in AND it will only get worse
    - CHINA is going on the very same downward path right now thanks to you
    know who - W!). If you buy anything today "made in China" you better be
    making a GOOD buying decision - otherwise you will be in the very same situation
    you are in now with your Powermate Gensets - as China is starting to
    collapse from within just like this USA economy of ours has been doing for
    the last 5-6 years to no end! All politics aside as well - as blame is
    put where it is deserved in my books and we can only blame YOU KNOW
    WHO! Sorry but true!



    NOW -



    Any inventory stock of their (Powermate) Gensets - that were once formerly sold in the USA & Canada - have been
    totally liquidated out to a company in Georgia I was told, and it was said to be true.



    I was able to get this NEW added info through another source said to be VERY accurate btw - so hopefully it is.



    That Company's name is PRAMAC, and their phone # is 770-218-5430.



    BUT -



    Before you blame me for any false info on that PRAMAC Co, or their phone # read the GOOD NEWS below first.




    The GOOD NEWS is that I spoke with a very close contact inside Home
    Depot (not saying who so don't even ask), and that person gave me some
    very GOOD NEWS for those that act on it NOW!



    Not tomorrow - Not next week - Not next month - and certainly NOT NEXT YEAR!



    DO IT RIGHT NOW!!



    I spoke with my Home Depot Corp contact today (using your dilemma - as
    my own - to get a response) to see if anything could be done from their
    point of view and here's what I was told to do.


    What I was told is that if I bring in my ORIGINAL HOME DEPOT CASH
    REGISTER DATED RECEIPT and speak to the (whichever Home Depot store
    applies here) Home Depot Store Manager there, and explain to them that
    the brand new never used Powermate Genset they sold me (you in this
    case) won't start - they would send your Genset out to their local
    Genset Service Vendor FREE OF CHARGE BTW, and hopefully get it started
    for you.



    Anything more then that - you would be on your own if it was damaged by you or someone else that tried using it.



    Here's another IMPORTANT FACT my contact at Home Depot told me.



    Almost 95% of all the Genset problems found by the Service Center
    are related to the fact that people don't read the OWNERS MANUAL and
    just didn't put OIL in the Genset - as they are shipped from the MFR
    without OIL in the units to begin with!!!!



    And here I thought everybody KNEW THAT!!



    I guess sometimes you just have to ask the OBVIOUS ??'s first huh?



    If you bought your Powermate Genset from other then a Home
    Depot Store then you will have to contact that outlet and see what they
    have to say.




    Best regards to all with the same problems, and hope I helped you out 100% - all political humor/truth aside.



    Please post me a reply as to finding this solution being the best
    resolve to your Powermate problem there by following my recommendations
    above. Also please rate my troubleshooting fix as well.



    Keep me posted and I'll follow up as well.



    Best regards,



    Frank





  • Frank JR
    Frank JR Sep 06, 2008

    six8rhino,



    Did you read the ADDED comment I just made as to PRAMAC. etc?



    2ndly - Did you try calling them as of yet? If not then MON morning?
    Don't consider yourself totally doomed unless you have MAJOR engine
    problems there that you haven't mentioned here in post. After all - all
    you said originally is that you were just looking for the gas/oil mix
    ratio, and I already gave that to you twice now.



    And lastly - Is your Genset there even in a runnable condition to begin with? Did you buy it NEW or 2nd hand as in USED?



    Frank







  • Frank JR
    Frank JR Sep 06, 2008

    six8rhino,



    I'm not offended at all - but rather disappointed at times when a
    person (namely me) has to ask the same ? at least 3-4 times, and all
    they get back in return is a 2-3 word answer! Not even a decent
    sentence making any sense at all.



    See my point?



    We highly Degreed and highly Skilled Tech people (myself that is -
    can't speak for everyone here at FIX-IT) that have gone through
    this ourselves (1000 times over at times) offer our expert opinions and
    expert help, and get NOTHING in return. Not even a Thank You at times.



    Some of the absolutely LAME answers given here make me at times laugh
    out loud ROTFLMAO, and wonder where some of these so-called GURU &
    EXPERT & GENIUS people come from - as some of their (Google Searched) answers are as
    wrong/lame as the stupid GOP government we have at present, but yet both
    think they too are a Godsend!



    In my regular Consulting Business I charge $45 an hour to solve 1000's
    of people's problems, and the clients are VERY grateful to say the
    least! I sure wish I could charge that here at FIXIT.COM, but they only
    pay $6 for every accepted answer given.



    I'm still not sure if I even want to waste my day to day time here
    doing the FIX-IT LIVE CHAT scenario at $6 a FIX as it were. They
    already invited me to do so, as from my EXPERT advice given so far.



    My self-employed home Electronics repair time is way more valuable to
    me, and I only charge $20/hr for that alone - repairing electric
    scooters and bikes as a side business. Very rewarding work though, as I
    get many a THANK YOU - WELL DONE, and that right there is worth way
    more then any money part as it were. Sometimes you just can't buy
    happiness as it were!



    You realize how hard I'd have to work at FIX-IT.COM just to make $45 an
    hour equivalent here - to equal what usually only takes me 5-10 mins of
    my regular Main Bldg Consulting time whether on-site or on the phone? I'd be dead
    in a week here at FIX-IT - esp after what I went through here just with you.



    Btw - my on-site Bldg charge (whether I'm there 5 mins or the 2 hours base
    fee) is a non-negotiable Flat Rate of $180, which doesn't cover extra driving mileage
    outside of a 15 mile radius. Every 15 mile zone there after is extra,
    and costs another $45. Gas isn't free, and neither is my time! Extra on-site
    time is also flat rate $45 an hour as well. NO BONES or I walk! Can't deal
    with CHEAP people, as we all have to make a living these days! Now you
    know.....



    I didn't get my business card posted motto for nothing!



    I also run circles around the so-called EXPERTS everyday!



    And they try and charge $600 a day whether there for 5 mins or 5 hours! Who
    do you think solves their client's problems that they can't? Thank
    you very much......I rest my case!



    So when I ask a few SIMPLE ??'s and get nothing logical back in return
    - until just now that is anyway - it always makes me wonder. What the
    hell does this person really want anyway? They surely aren't being
    "definitive" here anyway!



    Had you just said and explained yourself 4 postings ago what you
    finally posted here - it would have been a SLAM DUNK from posting reply
    #1.



    I almost hate to ask this ? because it's probably you that will be
    offended - but by any chance are you a College Professor yourself -
    either past retired or still teaching?



    Reason I have to ask is because you fit that mold perfectly, and I've
    dealt with more then 1 in my past consulting days, and let me tell you
    - they are by far the MOST difficult people to talk to much less get an
    answer out of! I won't even mention the word CHEAP here! Oh - there it
    is - I let it slip - damn! I guess it goes with the job territory huh?



    And - that 2 dB difference you talked about - that some
    "professor" monitored for you - was it a Certified & CALIBRATED dB
    meter, or just some mediocre accurate at best Made in China RADIO SHACK model not worth
    a hill of beans? Big difference when you factor in the Made in China
    ERROR %. I've seen some JUNK and then again I've seen some REAL JUNK!


    Just wait until all this CHEAP **** that was "Made in China" ALL
    breaks down (not that it hasn't already as from what I said in a prior
    post) and we have nothing here to replace that JUNK with. Who do you
    think will fix all this cheap China JUNK? Surely not China! It's coming
    faster then you know...



    Like I said before - I'll take an OHV 4-stoke over a noisy &
    polluting 2-stroke any day - for all the right reasons,
    AND the MANY ADVANTAGES far outweigh all the DISADVANTAGES of a
    2-stroke - just like I said before. PERIOD! While you're paying $2+ a
    quart for your mix oil I'm getting a free $2 worth of gas right off the
    bat! There's advantage #1 right there. Want more?



    Now that you answered your own ? yourself btw - and you just did here
    this time around - finally - if you don't know by now what mix to use
    then NO ONE can help you - as you are making this HARDER then pulling
    teeth from a mule's jaw as it were!



    I'll give you 1 last clue and then you truly are on your own as it were
    - as it seems you don't like to listen to common sense - much less
    EXPERT advice.





    Here's your CLUE in your own words -



    My ex-neighbor had a 55 gallon drum of mixed gas in his garage (lawn care business).



    NOTICE THE WORDS IN ( ) AS THAT IS YOUR ANSWER RIGHT THERE!



    LAWN CARE BUSINESS



    If you really read anything I posted - esp the part about PRAMAC then you have all the ANSWERS, and not just 1.



    Why you would even be calling a phone # posted anywhere even once
    (whether I posted site info or not for DIAGRAM purposes only), esp
    after I stated that Powermate went BANKRUPT, and ALL their INVENTORY
    was purchased by PRAMAC is beyond me!



    Again - I say - I'm not offended at all - just rather disappointed that
    you (and many others just like you) don't like to read anything, much
    less the proper information given here, and then use it to your
    advantage.



    I wish you well and please - when you buy your nest bottle of 2-stroke
    oil for your everyday plain-jane 2-stroke Genset there - do me a favor
    - PLEASE READ THE LABEL info on the bottle - as it's really a
    no-brainer!



    Best regards as always,



    Frank



    PS: Even my dad is easier to work with and he's 84 now! Hope that tells you something........hopefully?

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Do check the oil after it has tried to start. Low oil cutoff would certainly cause the problem. Look for the "lost" fuel shutoff valve... there usually is one.

Apr 24, 2010 | Coleman Powermate Premium Plus 6250W...

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