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I have a kenmore power miser 8 water heater no hot water even though i am a girl i worked in a hardware store for 8 yrs so i opened spot to top element and pushed reset button. it worked for a day. today someone else tried it because it was not working again when i came home there was water squirting out of the pressure relief valve. should I test or figure it is stuck and replace

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The good news is this is a fairly common problem. Generally when a water heater pilot light goes out it is due to a faulty thermocouple. Replacing this is simple, takes just a few minutes and the part can be found at almost any hardware store.

Now for the not so good news. Kenmore and Whirlpool water heaters are both made by the same company and have severe problems with the gas control/thermostat unit. There is an internal sensor for the thermocouple inside and this goes bad. You can buy the unit and install it or have it installed by a plumber or Sears. Call the service number on the side of the water heater. If you change the unit yourself, there are instructions in the package the unit is in and instructions can be found online. Make sure you turn off the gas line running to the waterheater and release some water pressure from the water heater before you start. It is fairly easy to replace.

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I am looking for reset code for AO Smith GPVH50 1000 water heater.Valve installed is Intellivent White rogers 184960 000, and 184960 002 on another boiler at the same location. After disconnecting Flamable...


Hi,not too sure what really prompted the problem. But you will need to still check for more posible places on your water heater to really know what causes it not to respond.

How Do I Troubleshoot My AO Smith Electric Water Heater

Troubleshooting and repairing an AO Smith electric water heater only takes a few minutes, and can save you hundreds in service calls and plumbing bills. The main indications of electric water heater problems are; no hot water, not enough hot water, slow hot water recovery, overheating and loud or unusual noises. Each of these problems has its own cause and repair requirements. We recommend calling a professional; however, you can repair most hot water heater complications yourself. Remember, if your water heater is still under warranty, or you are not sure, call the 1-800 number on your AO Smith water heater and ask for help and parts free.

Make sure the main electric circuit breaker(s) or fuses are in their "On" position inside the home's main electric panel. If a breaker(s) looks to be half on and half off, close the breaker and open it rapidly. If the breaker does not stay in the on position, replace the water heater breaker(s) and/or inspect the wiring from panel to heater. We recommend contacting a licensed, bonded and insured electrical contractor to troubleshoot the problem. In some cases, a bad breaker is a sign of trouble within the wiring system or water heater itself.
Testing AO Smith Electric Water Heater Thermostats

Turn off all circuit breakers and/or disconnect the fuses. Remove the thermostat cover plate(s) with a Phillips screwdriver. Turn the power back on.

Check for incoming power using a voltmeter. Set the meter to read 250 Volts. Touch and hold one lead wire to each of the top left and right screws of the top thermostat (or top two screws of the lower, if only one thermostat is present.) The meter should read approximately 210 to 230 volts of electricity. If no voltage is present with the breakers and fuses on, contact an electrician.

Turn on all the hot water faucets in the house until the water runs cold. This will ensure that the thermostat(s) will call for heat. Turn the faucets off.

Place one lead of the voltmeter on the top left thermostat screw and one lead on the second screw down on the right side of the thermostat. There should be 210+ volts of power. If not, turn the power off to the heater and push in firmly on the red reset button in the middle of the thermostat. You should here a click (but not always.)

Turn the power back on and check for voltage again. If no power, or limited power- fewer than 210 volts are present, check the top water-heating element for proper operation. If full power is present, but you still have no hot water after an hour or two, replace the top heating element. If no voltage, replace the thermostat.
Testing the AO Smith Electric Water Heater Heating Elements

Turn the power off to the water heater; remove the cover plate(s).

Test for incoming voltage with your voltmeter. Do not proceed until you verify that no voltage is present.

Loosen the two screws on each side of the heating element with a Phillips screwdriver.

Wearing heavy, electrical certified gloves remove each wire from the heating element and bend it slightly back out of the way.

Set your multi-meter to the Ohms position.

Place one lead on each screw of the element. The Ohm or resistance should read 12 to 16; averages are 13 to 14. If the reading is below 12 ohms of resistance, replace the water-heating element.

Reinstall the element's wiring.

Turn the power back on and test the circuit again. Reset your voltmeter to 250V. Full power should now be present. Turn the power off and replace the front cover(s).

Turn the water heater power on and wait an hour or two to check the hot water temperature at several faucets. The recovery time of an average AO Smith residential elect water heater is around 22 gallons an hour. It may take a while to reheat, depending on the size of your unit;

20 gallon 1 hour

30 gallon 1-1/2 hours

40 gallon 2 hours

50 gallon 2-1/2 hours

60 gallon 3 hours

80 gallon 4 hours

120 gallon 6 hours
Not enough Hot Water:

Calcium and other mineral buildup on a gas water heater control-valve thermostat probe will limit the heat detectable. You can clean the thermostat by removing the control valve and soaking the probe in a tall glass of white distilled vinegar and a little backing soda. Do not immerse the control valve itself; you will ruin it. Soak it for about an hour, and then rinse will with tap water before replacing.



Pilot light will not stay lit:

The most common issue with pilot lights is the thermocouple. The thermocouple is the thin copper wire, that when heated at its tip, creates a small electric charge that opens the magnetic safety valve inside the main gas control. Gas, water heater thermocouples do fail from time to time and need replaced. Older water heaters with accessible burner chamber doors are the easiest to work on. New water heaters are required to have sealed inner chamber doors and are not readily accessible. Only certified brand technicians should remove these doors. Each time the doors opened, you must replace an airtight seal. Failure to replace the seal could lead to carbon monoxide leaking from the water heater causing carbon monoxide poisoning.



The water heaters gas control valves and thermostats can also go bad. Replacing the control valve is just as critical a safety concern. If the pilot tube, and main burner tube, is not attached to the control valve correctly, gas leaks can occur.


Electric Water Heater Troubleshooting



Trouble shooting electric water heaters requires a bit of electric know how. Learning how to use a voltmeter, or multi-meter and becoming acquainted with your home electric system is most important when fixing an electric water heater. Failure to follow safe electrical practices can cause injuries and property damage.



When troubleshooting an electric water heater, keep in mind, there are only a few parts to its operating system: the heating element(s), thermostat(s), the main wiring connection junction, anode rod(s), water connections, T&PR valve, drain valve and the tank.



The most honest recommendation when repairing an electric water heater is this. Replace the thermostat(s), and the element(s), both upper and lower, if applicable, at the same time. Replacing one element or one thermostat of an electric water heater at a time causes a mismatch in the operating capacity of each part. Kind of like only replacing one battery in and electric device, it puts more of a strain on the older parts and causes premature failure. This leads to more frequent and costly repairs. Replacing all the parts at one time will help prevent future hot water heater problems and unnecessary water heater maintenance.


Water Heater Leaking



Water heater leaks are also an issue when troubleshooting a hot water heater. In most cases, you will need to replace the water heater. However, there are times when the leak is no coming directly from the water heater's tank. Leaks can also occur at a number of the water heaters connections. Before you replace your water heater, take the time to check of these locations:



Temperature and Pressure Relief valve (TP&R)- The brass safety valve usually located on the top, or near the top of water heater.

Finding Water Heater Repair and Replacement Parts

Finding water heater repair and water-heater replacement parts is not always so easy. Electric water heater repair and replacement parts are at most hardware stores, home centers and online retailers. Residential electric hot water heater repair parts are generally generic in by nature. New high efficiency, water heater parts like the ones for hybrid electric water heaters will only be available from their respective manufacturers until there is a need in the market place.



Hot water heater parts for gas hot water heaters are harder to find and often-difficult purchase. Many wholesalers will not sell gas repair parts or equipment to none licensed nonprofessionals. They feel there is a safety risk involved. However, there are online retailers whom do not see a need to limit their water heater parts sales. This is good for us, not so good for water heater companies.

Or you could simply contact them from the below link:



AO Smith Water Heater Phone Number and Contact Information

A. O. Smith Water Products Company

500 Tennessee Waltz Parkway • Ashland City, TN 37015

1-800-527-1953 • www.hotwater.com


Hope that helped

Jun 05, 2011 | Air Conditioners

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How do two thermostats in a water heater work?


If it's and electric hot water heater, there are 2- elements. One near the top of the tank and one near the bottom. This helps the water in the tank to heat evenly. On each element there is a thermostat. You have to remove the element covers on the side of tank to see them. Each thermostat, can be set up or down, but their settings should match. The normal, safe setting is 110 degrees. That will prevent accidental scalding.

Over time, the burner elements will fail to heat and will need to be replaced. It's not difficult to do, but you will need a water heater thermostat wrench to do it. They are inexpensive and can be purchased at any hardware store or home center. If you ever have to replace them (If one fails, replace both) I recommend stainless steel elements. They cost a little more, but will last longer. Particularly, if your water has a high mineral content (i.e Well Water).

To help lengthen their life span, it is recommended the the tank turned off (electric and water intake) and emptied and flushed at least one a year. It to, is an easy process, but takes about an hour to do, depending on your tank's capacity. To do this, all you need is a garden hose long enough to run outside or to a floor drain.

Hope this helps you understand how the Thermostats work.

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Hot water leaking from what i think to be the pop off valve. i tried to tighten it a little and it started leaking more. The unit is 16 years old. The excess water is draining into the catch pan and then...


Hello
16 yrs old? Im guesing this is a hot water heater.Not a air conditioner.

If its still making hot water you may not need to replace the whole unit.
The valve that is leaking is a high pressur relief valve and they do go bad the sprigs become weak over time and some corrosion may not allow the valve to seat properly.

1st step is to shut off all incoming and out going water to the tank.
2nd Shut off fuel or gas to the unit, and annonce to everyone your are working on the hot water heater.
3rd at the very bottom should be a drain valve much like a hose spicket,open this slowly and drain the tank,remember the water will be hot.You may not need to drain it all the way,while draining pop open the relief valve,when you stop getting water from it,you are below it and can turn the drain valve off.
4th remove old relief valve and replace with a new one,i think they are rated at 15 psi or 30 psi blowoff pressure,hopefully there is a tag on it with that info.

When you go to install your new one use some pipe thread compound or teflon tape around the threads before you reinstall valve.
Once done slowly refill tank with water, check for leaks.When full open up hot water valve to house and relight buner.open a faucet in kitchen to hot to bleed off any air.

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Water not hot enough, have to open more than one hot water faucet to get hot water


The Dip Tube "The dip what?" you might say. In every water heater, there is a plastic tube parked in the cold port that brings cold water to the bottom of the tank to be heated -- and preventing it from mixing with already-heated water in the top of the tank.
If that falls into the tank or splits or breaks, then cold mixes with hot and suddenly your water heater doesn't work nearly as well as before.
There's a ton of Americans out there who know all about this because of a debacle a few years ago. The company that makes most of the dip tubes in this country changed its formula for the plastic. The new plastic was prone to disintegrate in certain conditions. The operative time period was August 1993 to March 1996. Aside from gradually or suddenly having much less hot water, the telltale was finding bits of plastic clogging faucet aerators.
There was a scandal, class-action suit, and settlement. But the terms of that expired several years ago, so if you find you have the problem, all you can do is try to deal with it. Even after replacing the dip tube and flushing the tank, you might still find plastic bits for awhile. But at least the water will again be hot.
Debacles aside, you should also be aware that even good plastic will eventually become brittle with age and hot water. We've found dip tubes in old water heaters that were split and broken. It's entirely possible for a water heater to outlive its dip tube. Simply replacing this inexpensive part can restore your tank's function to new and save you the cost of a new heater. So think about that before you run out and buy a new one if you experience this problem.
You may also want to flush out any built sediment. Check this out.

http://www.waterheaterrescue.com/pages/WHRpages/English/OrderPages/XCart/Sediment-Control-Flush-Kit.html

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Hot water heater is natural gas type gas is staying on all the time burning even when water is hot it continues to burn. Not hot water tank is over 10 years old should I try to repair or just replace???


The thermostat is what is out of calibration...this is built into the gas valve. Unfortunately the part cost almost what a new tank does. My opinion is to replace.....today gas valve....another 8 years the tank...

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Time for a new water heater, it's leaking there because that's where it can get out - tank shot - not repairable. (Unless it's actually leaking out of the drain valve(which can be threaded out and replaced) but that would only leak if someone has tried to open it.)

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With amp meter check amps on element wire . If no amps check Voltage and terminals on element. Should be 240 volts. Only one elements heats at a time. Top element heats up first then lower element heats up. Amps should be about 18 amps if working properly. One other problem could be a leak in hot water pipe or dip tube may be off. Dip tube carries cold water to bottom of heater so incoming and heated water are not mixed at top of tank

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My hot water pipes were froze this morning. Michigan! I have cold(almost froze) There is not any water coming out in kitchen from hot side. I have cold though in every room. There is water coming out a...


no easy fix . your water heater should be fine most likely its up to temp ,thats why its not lighting its main flame . the frozen pipe is another story you need to get the heat up in the house open any cuppord doors that have pipes in them like under a sink ( to let heat from the room get it there ) leave a faucet on hot and wait . at some point you will unfreeze . but you migh end up with a broken pipe so keep your eye out for a water leak . good luck

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check the pipes on top for leaks and if non then your water heater is leaking from inside and that cant be repaired / larryyb

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The overflow valve as you termed it is operated by two factors. Temperature which would mean that the Bottom thermostat may be malfunctioning. Pressure which is not as likely, Lifts at about 150 PSI. Check water temperature. If the temperature is to high the problem is with the setting or the themostatic control may need to be replaced.

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