Question about Audio Players & Recorders

2 Answers

Sansui amp au11000

The driver board keeps burning out transistors when a signal is applied, it had 4 stuffed output transistors when i got it ,i replaced all 8 of these these but it burnt out left side of driver board when signal was applied, i replaced those then i applied power it was ok as before until i applied signal,this time it was right side, 8 transistors burnt out .ihave since found a dicky varistor? double diode? on the regulated power supply & protector board! would that be the cause of my woes? what do you think! i have had some suggestions from ginko,but i think he needs more info (here it is) regards ross

Posted by on

  • 6 more comments 
  • redrooster Sep 05, 2008

    hello dan,i replaced transistors after left channel burnt out,5,6,7,8,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22, on board f-2580 & resistor r19,r25 &,diode 01, on f-2568,then right side did the same, replaced,6,8,12,14,16,18,20,22,on f-2580.because i cant get originals they are all subs,including outputs mj 15024,mj 15025,they are 250w! i was told they would be ok? before it smoked up last time, the protector light would come on then go off

  • redrooster Sep 05, 2008

    ok dan i have no idea what you are talking about,do i take the output transistors out of the heatsinks,then measure from the pads on the heatsink where the transistors were? if so,do i leave the driver board out? i take it that (to ground) means the chassis, what about +/- 0.6,b+/b-,0.0,is that from base ,collector, emitter,if so what is meant by by b+/b- isnt that the power supply rails?confused ross.

  • redrooster Sep 07, 2008

    hi dan,before i do what you have suggested,i think i still have a problem with the driver board ,im measureing 3m ohms on left channel & nil on right channel,between collectors on tr19,tr21 , & tr20,tr22 ,im sending photo,hope you get it.regards ross. ps no i can not send photo this web page is ********,ive been trying for two days now! what we have here is a failure to communicate, can you send me an ordinary email address please,its getting that frustrating im nearly tearing my hair out,im trying to fix a problem here,but all ive got is another problem shoved in my face

  • redrooster Sep 08, 2008


    1. -57.1v,-0.750,-0.770 /+57.1v,-0.743,-0.723/-57.1v,-0.718,-1.452v +57.3v,-0.716,16.8mv, here are the mesurements,there counterparts are identical


  • redrooster Sep 09, 2008

    well is that it? ive reported a problem with your web site, so now you wont help me,i am disappointed with your unprofessional approach to the problems at hand dan. do i get a refund?or are you going to help me with this? redrooster.

  • redrooster Sep 12, 2008

    hi dan, i have done all that you suggested & have replaced all transistors with relevant subs that hasnt fixed it, so im replacing the electrolitics next, that must be the problem! ( i hope )will let you know how i went when i install them.ross

  • redrooster Sep 28, 2008

    the 100uf caps on the driver board have gone high,out of the 4, one of them is ok the other three are from 124uf to 138uf, i have ordered some more, still waiting for them.everything else measures ok

  • redrooster Oct 02, 2008

    the only thing i can find wrong is the driver caps 100uf,80v 85 degree elna, 1 out of 4 is correct the others are 124uf 126uf 138uf, i cant seem to find any of the right voltage,would 100v be ok or will there be problems with that, as i said everything else checks out ok from power supply on .redrooster

×

2 Answers

  • Level 1:

    An expert who has achieved level 1.

  • Contributor
  • 2 Answers

Check for open resitors (All Values)..also make sure that any diode stacks (Varistors) are not open or shorted....mostly make sure you have replaced the BIAS POT! Lastly U could check for open traces and bad solder joints..also look for tiny solder bridges under an eyeloop magnifier on foil side of PCB>especially after replacing multiple components.

Eric

Posted on Jan 16, 2009

  • Level 3:

    An expert who has achieved level 3 by getting 1000 points

    Superstar:

    An expert that got 20 achievements.

    All-Star:

    An expert that got 10 achievements.

    MVP:

    An expert that got 5 achievements.

  • Master
  • 4,234 Answers

Without seeing the amp nor having the service manual in front of me, it sounds like you have a severe offset problem. There is either an open resistor or transistor in the early stages. With the output transistors removed from the unit, look around at voltage levels to determine where the fault is. I will try to locate the service manual. Can you post the parts that you have replaced?

Thanks,
Dan

Posted on Sep 04, 2008

  • 3 more comments 
  • ABRsvcs Sep 05, 2008

    I don't have a schematic so the references you posted don't help much. But in general, remove the output transistors completely and measure to ground using a DC voltmeter, each of the 3 pads per output transistor. These pads should measure as follows:



    +/- 0.6V, B+/B-, 0.0



    If they do not, please post the readings here and I'll attempt to help with the next step.



    Dan

  • ABRsvcs Sep 05, 2008

    Ok. Remove the transistors completelyand measure the pads that remain. Connect the black to ground and use the red to get hte measurements from each pad. Each pair should measure as follows (total of 6 pads):



    0.0

    0.6

    B+ (supply voltage probably between 40-70V)

    0.0

    -0.6

    B- (supply voltage as above but negative)



    The driver board must be installed. All that you should have done at this point is to remove the output transistors. The above should be the same for left and right (6 measurements per side).

    Dan

  • ABRsvcs Sep 08, 2008



    i'd like to help further but am restricted by the agreement I have with Fixya form posting any email for direct contact. All I can do at this point is to direct you to a servicer. Where are you located?



    Dan

  • ABRsvcs Sep 10, 2008

    I'm sorry for the delay, but I just received notification that a response was made to this problem.



    Now for the problem at hand:



    One channel is definately incorrect. Where you have the -1.4V should be -.7. I would guess that one of the transistors on the driver board is shorted or its compliment is open. As long as the output transistors are out of the circuit, you should be able to run the unit and track down the offending part. The only thing I can suggest is to A/B the unit. In other words measure the left and right sides. They should be identical. Also, within each channel, the + and - sides should be similar. You will need to change the transistors at the driver stage to make the voltage readings match. Look for low valued resistors that may be open and/or the transistor pairs at the driver stage. Always change the transistors in complimentary pairs.



    Keep me posted.

    Dan

  • ABRsvcs Sep 12, 2008

    Ross, while possible, it is unlikely that caps are the problem. Look instead for open low values resistors. Also, check the power supply areas. Specifically, the low voltage supply. If you have an offset, perhaps one side of the supply is bad. In that case, a bad cap would likely be the problem.



    Keep me posted.

    Dan

×

1 Suggested Answer

6ya6ya
  • 2 Answers

SOURCE: I have freestanding Series 8 dishwasher. Lately during the filling cycle water hammer is occurring. How can this be resolved

Hi,
a 6ya expert can help you resolve that issue over the phone in a minute or two.
best thing about this new service is that you are never placed on hold and get to talk to real repairmen in the US.
the service is completely free and covers almost anything you can think of (from cars to computers, handyman, and even drones).
click here to download the app (for users in the US for now) and get all the help you need.
goodluck!

Posted on Jan 02, 2017

Add Your Answer

Uploading: 0%

my-video-file.mp4

Complete. Click "Add" to insert your video. Add

×

Loading...
Loading...

Related Questions:

1 Answer

Determine if an analog receiver has blown a channel


When you need to replace the output transistors, do them both at the same time with a matched pair. That way you won't unbalance the power supply and will be assured of the same power out is available on both channels.

Feb 18, 2016 | Sansui Audio Players & Recorders

1 Answer

Transistors burn out on one side of driver board f-2580 at switch on of signal sansui au11000


If it keeps burning out check the wiring section of the board that is powering the transistor.
A contact or a bad diode for example can cause the transistor to blow recurrently.

Aug 31, 2008 | Sansui Audio Players & Recorders

1 Answer

Sony STR D865 5.1 channel receiver blows the 6.3 Amp 125 Volts fuses that send power to the MN2488 & MP1620. Tested with an ohm meter and there is zero resistance between the collector and emitter on both...


most of the time in a sony receiver, when the output transistors are shorted and blowing the fuse, it doesn't take any more than replacing the outputs and fuse then you should be good to go. They don't usually require any resistors or other components to be replaced.

Mar 02, 2017 | Audio Players & Recorders

1 Answer

Sansui sv29276


Replace all the capacitors connected to the horizontal output section. Especially capacitors connected to the collector of the horizontal output transistor.

Oct 16, 2012 | Sansui Televison & Video

1 Answer

I find n.2 power transistor type 2SC1116 (npn) and n.2 type 2SA747 (pnp) for SANSUI AU11000. tanks


Try Grandata Limited at www.grandata.co.uk
They had them both in a semiconductor catalogue they sent me!
£1.10 for the first and £4.25 for the other (prices 2005).

Jan 01, 2010 | NAD C320 2-Channel Amplifier

1 Answer

Marantz SR19 no sound?


When replacing output transistors on amplifiers it is generally a good practice to replace the output capacitors as well as the biasing resistors. Just because one transistor is bad does not mean that that is the whole problem. Look for what caused the problem. Bad speakers,bad wires,defective traces on circuit board,poor soldering. Also when mounting the transistor make sure it is insulated and grease it with a dab of silicone heat sink compound. Whenever I service a board I examine all components for tolerance as well. A resistor marked at 1% tolerance,example 1k ohm + or - 1% should read no less than 990 ohms and no more than 1010 ohms. Anything else your asking for trouble. Another point is that some amplifiers use matching pairs. Pairs complement each other in an output stage and must be replaced in pairs. I repaired a Sansui Amplifier a while back and it looked as if a power output resistor was burned. Comparing the two channels I figured the matching value from the other side and replaced all of them and the system has worked flawlessly for years now. I am a retired electrical engineer and have worked in a few areas of electronics for over 35 years. Hope this information helps you.   

May 06, 2009 | Teac A-1D 2-Channel Amplifier

2 Answers

SANSUI AMP AU-D11-II


It is possible, but nlikely that the protection circuit is bad. More common are shorted output transistors or defective driver stage transistors. This should not be a difficult repair for anyone familiar with audio amps. Unsolder/remove Q22 and Q23 and measure the voltages at each of the 3 pads per transistor and post them here.

Thanks,
Dan

Nov 04, 2008 | Audio Players & Recorders

1 Answer

My marantz sr19ex amplifier has stopped outputting sound


I am working on one right now, it has blown output transistors and several upstream transistors and burned resistors as well. This channel of the amp will need a rebuild.

Use a volt meter and, with black lead on the chassis, check the voltages at the 3 conductor connectors going to the board at the rear speaker terminals. These are the outputs coming from the amp and if there is voltage on any of these (unit at idle, no volume), the protection circuit will keep the output from getting to the speakers. High voltage here means blown amp, most likely.

feel free to contact me regarding the repair... www.irebuildmarantz.com

Aug 27, 2008 | Audio Players & Recorders

2 Answers

Amp : sansui au11000 blown transistors on driver board


may i ask you did you put silicone grease in your transistor and apply a good mica insulator in all of your transistor---------look for any burnt resistor or explosive capacitor -----check for scew tie your supply voltage to earth by wrong.

Aug 03, 2008 | NAD C320 2-Channel Amplifier

Not finding what you are looking for?
Audio Players & Recorders Logo

Related Topics:

255 people viewed this question

Ask a Question

Usually answered in minutes!

Top Audio Players & Recorders Experts

kakima

Level 3 Expert

102366 Answers

 Grubhead
Grubhead

Level 3 Expert

4852 Answers

The Knight
The Knight

Level 3 Expert

72620 Answers

Are you an Audio Player and Recorder Expert? Answer questions, earn points and help others

Answer questions

Manuals & User Guides

Loading...