Echo 30.1CC Chainsaw With a 14 In.bar and Chain "weed eater flooding" Questions

...weed eater, edger and blower wont start. I have an Echo weed eater, edger and blower, the blower I really dont have problems with. But the edger and weed eater, I have a hard time getting started ...

...usual 3-half turns for both high and low was too much (flooded) (Used to be good starting point on weed eaters years ago. So, turned both all the way in, and only backed out 1-full turn. (2-halves) ...