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Bike ran fine all day, turned off at favorite watering hole. came back out and the engine cranks fine but won't start. checked for spark by removing plug wire but did not get a spark, removed plug and checked again, no spark. tried another coil but same result. checked fuel, no problem. have worked back to ignition module. can this be tested?

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You can take the ignition modual to a parts store and they can test it but it might be the rectifier that went bad

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