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Weak spark 1973 yamaha rt1 i don't see a spark

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  • brian sroka Jan 18, 2012

    i see spark with the spark plug boot off but it seems to be weak. it will not jump the plug the plug is gapped and ive tried a few different plugs condencer ,points, ignition coil are new

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My buddy has a rt1 360, same thing happened years ago. We pulled the flywheel and cleaned the rust off of it, and either cleaned the points or got new ones, and that solved the spark issue.

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Problem could be a few different things. Not sure on all the ignition parts on that bike, but could be a bad sparkplug cap, wire, coil or magneto. My recommendation would be to first take the spark plug cap off. Trim a bit off the wire and put the cap back on. Over time spark plug caps move quite a bit and wear out the wire inside cause a weak connection.

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