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I have a 2005 datona 650, new battery, 12 volts through starting circuit, all fuses and relays brand new. Turn the key and nothing, no lights, no voltage drop off battery, nothing. Been tracing wires and found one connector was missing that contained three wires: black, green, brown. Trying to figure out where these wires go and why I have no juice anywhere????

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  • jordan watson Apr 01, 2011

    im looking for an ignition switch now, i will let you know.

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Hi.

If you do not have lights at all, then it is likely a defective ignition switch

If there is power to dash, but engine is not starting, check or jump the kickstand switch. That is probably causing the fault. Use the service manual. You find the diagrams in section 15 at pages 364-365.

Service manual has been uploaded here.

The download is slow. Instead of clicking on the link below with the left mouse button, use the right button and choose "save file as" from the drop-down menu.

Regards.

Ginko.

Posted on Mar 27, 2011

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    Ginko Apr 01, 2011

    OK.

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