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Re: Turn signal module
If you'll contact me directly at email@example.com, I'll send you what I have on the turn signal module. Now, Harley changed the module but I don't know what year they did it. Anyway, I have a pin out for the early module and a trouble shooting guide. Maybe it'll help. No charge of course. Just remind me of what you need as I get lots of these request. I'd send it here but they limit me to 150Kb maximum file size.
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When the turn signals quit working pull up , down , front to back an back to front on the turn signal switch handle . Do they work when doing this ? Pontiac had bad switch . The power for the turn signals goes through the flasher / hazard module . Could be the switch or the module.
The HAZARD LPS fuse in the left hand instrument panel (LH IP) junction block supplies battery positive voltage to the flasher module, which is part of the hazard switch assembly. The TURN LPS fuse in the LH IP junction block supplies ignition positive voltage to the flasher module. The turn signal lamps may only be activated with the ignition switch in the ON position. When the turn signal switch is placed in either the left or right position, current flow is from the flasher module's output to the turn signal switch assembly. The flasher module then sends an on-off voltage signal to either the left or right turn signals and their instrument panel cluster (IPC) indicator. When the hazard switch is pressed, all the turn signal lamps will flash including both IPC turn signal indicators.
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The left an right turn signals get there power from same fuse ,HZDT/SG fuse 15amp in the left under hood fuse box. through the turn signal hazard flasher module. Here is how they work .
Turn Signal/Cornering Lamps
The HZDT/SIG fuse in the fuse block - underhood - left supplies battery positive voltage to the turn signal/hazard flasher module and have ground at G202. The turn signal lamps may only be activated with the ignition switch in the ON or ACCY position. The T/SIG fuse in the fuse block - underhood - left supplies battery positive voltage to the turn signal switch. When the turn signal switch is placed in either the left or right position, current flow is from the turn signal switch assembly to the turn signal/hazard flasher module. The turn signal/hazard flasher module then sends an on-off voltage signal to either the left or right turn signals and their instrument cluster (IPC) indicator. When the hazard switch is pressed, all the turn signal lamps will flash including both IPC turn signal indicators. The left turn signals have ground at G106, G400 and at G402. The right turn signals have ground at G105 and G400. The turn signal switch supplies battery positive voltage to the cornering lamps, the left cornering lamp has ground at G105 and the right cornering lamp has ground at G106.The turn signal switch or the turn / hazard flasher module is bad or there is a wiring problem. Go to you tube an check out a few videos on basic electrical testing ,then get a DVOM - digital volt ohm meter , an wiring diagram an trouble shoot the circuit . There may even be a video on test turn signal circuit .
The turn signal module (TSM) is an electronic microprocessor that controls the turn signals and four-way hazard flasher. The turn signal module receives its information from the speedometer and turn signal
On models equipped with a security system
(TSSM), it is incorporated into the TSM module. The
bank angle sensor (BAS) provides motorcycle movement
signals to the module. TSM and TSSM modules are not
The turn signal module, TSM or TSSM, is located on
the electrical panel located in front of the rear wheel.
When there is a problem with either system, a diagnostic fault code(s) is set. The TSM or TSSM can only be tested with Harley-Davidson diagnostic equipment. If any portion of the module is inoperative, refer the testing to a Harley-Davidson dealership
Lighting control module ? ?????? Hazard / flasher module ! Now ( there''s not even an electrical signal where the fuse plugs into the interior fuse panel.) What FUSE ??????
The STOP LP 25 A fuse in the underhood fuse block supplies battery positive voltage to the normally open stop lamp switch. When the driver presses the brake pedal, the switch contacts close and battery positive voltage is supplied to both the STOP 15 A fuse and the CHMSL 10 A fuse in the I/P fuse block, and to the turn signal/hazard module. The turn signal/hazard module then supplies voltage to both of the trailer rear turn/stop lamp supply voltage circuits. The voltage from the CHMSL 10 A fuse is to the center high mounted stop lamp (CHMSL) and the trailer jumper harness. The voltage from the STOP 15 A fuse is to the stop lamps, throttle actuator control (TAC) module, and the cruise control.
The backup lamp request signal is sent from the powertrain control module (PCM) to the body control module (BCM) on the Class 2 message system. This signal is based on the park neutral position (PNP) switch signal. The BCM supplies voltage on the backup lamp supply voltage circuit to the backup lamps and to the automatic day/night mirror. Voltage for the courtesy lamp supply voltage circuit and backup lamp supply voltage circuit is from the TBC B fuse in the instrument panel fuse block directly through the BCM to these circuits. A short to ground on either of these circuits will open the fuse. The backup lamps are grounded at G401.
For trailer wiring, a separate backup lamp circuit is connected through the underhood fuse block from the TRLR B/U 10 A fuse to the trailer wiring harness.
Turn Signal/Hazard Lamps
The IGN E 10 A fuse in the underhood fuse block supplies battery positive voltage to the turn signal/hazard switch assembly. The FLASH 25 A fuse in the I/P fuse block supplies battery positive voltage to the turn signal/flasher module and ground is supplied at G200. When the turn signal switch is placed in either the left or right position, a voltage signal is completed from the turn signal switch to the turn sign/flasher module. When the hazard flasher switch is activated, a ground signal is completed from the turn signal/hazard switch to the turn sign/flasher module. The turn sign/flasher module then sends an on-off voltage signal through the LT TRLR, RT TRLR, LT TURN or RT TURN 10 A fuses in the I/P fuse block to the appropriate turn signal or to all 4 fuses for hazard operation. The instrument panel cluster (IPC) indicators receive voltage from the LT TURN and RT TURN fuses as well as the DDM/PDM for the mirror turn signals. The DDM/PDM has no function or control of the mirror turn signals other that a pass through connection for the circuits. The audio chime is also activated when the turn signals are on. When the hazard switch is pressed, all turn signal lamps will flash including both IPC turn indicators. The front turn signals are grounded at G100. The rear turn signals are grounded at G401. The Mirror turn signals are grounded by the DDM/PDM.
Do you know how to do automotive electrical circuit testing with a test light or volt meter ? How to read an use a wiring diagram to pin point testing points . ( connectors , fuse locations etc... ) How to use a power flow chart ? Here is a site for just such info .
The turn signals on your Windstar are controlled by the front electronic module and the rear electronic module. If you are having problems with the turn signals, you should BEGIN diagnosis by scanning these modules for fault codes.
Wjth all that said, If you are having problems with the rear lights, failure of the rear electronic module is pretty common for Windstars.