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ZX1000 89 B1 NINJA REAR BRAKE RES HAS FLUID 2 MASTER CYLINDER 2 BRAKE PIPE 2 CALIPER AIR COMES FROM BLEED NIPPLES ALL GOOD BUT STILL NO BRAKE

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hey there,, just gonna guess that u are tryin to bleed the caliper with it on the wheel already,,if u are m8 then itl take ages to pressure up,, im takin it that the caliper has never been split appart b4,, so any way,,take the caliper off the wheel ,but still leave it connected to the brake line,,take pads out to, and just place a pad in between the to pistons,,fill up the resevoir with fluid,, leave the cap off and just put the rubber cap in ,,start pumpin the foot brake,u should see the pistons moving,,keep pumpin till the pistons are a fair way in,, then if u have some put some copper grease on the pistons, then prize them back in,,then replace the pads then pump the foot brake again,just to check,its all moving,, put caliper bk on the wheel ,then bleed as normal,, gettin all air bubbles out,, ,hope that all makes sense m8,, any probs ,,shout and stage 2 story il tell yuh,, cheers now

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SOURCE: On my 1986 GPZ600 the rear brake siezes up when I use it.

Sounds like you need to service the caliper. Remove the piston from the caliper by pumping the brake pedal, be warned you will get brake fluid everywhere. Remove piston seals, dust and oil, you'll probably find that the grooves where they usually reside are full of 'crud' thoroughly clean the grooves, clean the seals then inspect seals for damage and replace if necessary, grease seals (high temp grease) and put back into caliper, wipe away excess grease. Inspect piston for corrosion, minor corrosion can be flatted back with 1200 grit sandpaper, if too badly corroded replace. lightly grease piston (high temp grease) and push into caliper. the piston should slide in easily by hand. Finally bleed caliper well, flush new fluid through entire system.

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try using a line locker close to master cyclinder ,lever should go rock hard if it has no air in system,work line locker down lines to see if lever stays hard.
also check the lever travel to make sure that lever is pushing on master cyclinder plunger as a lot of after market levers dont have correct casting and have to travel in a long way before brakes work even when system is bled. also check to make sure calliper carriers are not bent and pads not sitting square on rotors.
hope this helps

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Brake system failure


I think brake proportional Valve (or Brake pressure regulator) which usually a part of Master cylinder is suspicious.
It regulates pressure to Front and Rear brake line.

If I were you, I try to draw air from Master-cylinder side (not Caliper side).
(Bleed from connector between Master-cylinder and pipe, same way as caliper. someone keep pushing brake then you lose connector then tight. Don't forget to put towel under master cylinder to catch brake fluid)
If air trapped in Proportional valve (pressure regulator), pressure won't relay to rear brake line but only front side.
Front has two separate line from master cylinder (right and left) but rear goes in one line from master cylinder then separate at rear.

Did you noticed both rear brake dragged when it's hot day ?
Because when air get hot, air expand and pushes to caliper and drag but not respond to your pedal.
(calipers don't respond when you push pedal, but it's pushes calipers by itself even you are not pushing pedal, when it's hot because air expand)
Sometimes, seal get old and lose pressure for only one side (front or rear).

if this happened after you did brake job, or you notice your brake was vapor locked (too much brake on hot day then brake fluid boiled), maybe air bleed and whole fluid change may solve.
if you didn't have any unusual activity but it gradually losing pressure to rear, I suspect master cylinder (proportional valve seal).

Sorry I don't have exact e46 master cylinder diagram but basic diagram, hope you can understand what I am talking about.
Picture shows "leak" but this case "Air" in somewhere in pink.
or lose seal on rear piston.

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What is the most problem for the master brake not apply brake fluid to rear wheel?


Air in the brake lines. Brake fluid can not be compressed. If air is in the brake lines the air will compress not allowing the rear brakes to apply.

Check your owners manual for the type of brake fluid required, (DOT 3, DOT 4 OR silicone based DOT 5 brake fluid) remove the bap from the brake master cylinder. You will feed another person to pump up the brakes then depress the brake pedal while you get under the car and loosen the wheel cylinder for drum brakes or caliper bleed screw allowing the brake fluid and air to escape your braking system plumbing. Repeat this until brake fluid without air comes out the bleeder screws. Be sure to add brake fluid so the master cylinder does not go dry.

The brake bleeders resemble a grease zerk fitting.

Hopefully this will get your brakes operating normally.

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Hi would seem like the internal seals in the master cylinder are letting fluid past, If after you have pumped it a couple of times if you just rest your foot on the peddle with slight pressure will it slowly go to the floor this is a sure sign, You need to replace or recondition the master cylinder

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Find your rear brake master cylinder. The find the metal line that comes out of the rear of the master cylinder. Follow this line all the way back to your rear brake caliper. Look for broken lines or leaks. Check your rear brake master cylinder reservoir to make sure you have brake fluid in it. Fill the reservoir with the recommended type of fluid. The proper type of fluid is printed on the top cover for the reservoir. Never mix the different types of brake fluid, they are not compatible. Once you fill the reservoir, you must bleed the brakes.

To bleed the brakes, you perform the following steps in this exact order. First, slowly depress and release the rear brake pedal a few times. Then, press the rear brake pedal and hold it. Open the bleeder valve on the caliper and allow all air or brake fluid to escape. Close the bleeder valve. Release the brake pedal and again depress and hold it down. Open the bleeder and allow the air and fluid to bleed out. Close the bleeder valves. Release the brake pedal. Check the level of the brake fluid in the reservoir. Do not allow the reservoir to run dry. If you still don't have a good brake pedal, continue to bleed the brakes until you get brake fluid with no air bubbles in it.

If after you have thoroughly bled the brakes you cannot get a pedal, you either have a mechanical problem with the brake pedal or the master cylinder needs rebuilding.

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Hi, i am trying to bleed my rear brake on my 525 mxc but the piston couldn't come out after 30mins bleeding. I dismantled the caliper and the piston, cleaned it with hydraulic oil and when i tried again,...


hi, try lifting the caliper higher than the brake resivoir, as the fluid will then have to be pumped up hill and the chances of removing the air ar improved, do you have a bleed nipple at the rear mastercylinder, if so bleed it here first, does this bike have rubber rear brake line, if it does you can clamp the pipe close to the master cylinder with some grips useing a cloth wraped around the hose to reduce damage, with the pipe clamped the mastercylinder should be hard when depresing the pedal, if this is the case u can then force the fluid through to the rear caliper by opening the nipple on the caliper then using the on of pumping method using the grips, press down on the pedal with the grips released, dont let go of the pedal again until you have re clamped the hose again, keep repeating this untill all the air is removed and the fluid comes freely from the caliper bleed nipple, finish off with the grips completly removed and bleed as usual at the caliper, all the time not alowing the fluid level to drop low in the resivoir. hope this helps, paul

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Here is the procedure from the service manual. I would add just one thing. Do each wheel in this order

  1. right rear wheel
  2. left rear wheel
  3. right front wheel
  4. left front wheel
BLEEDING

HINT: If any work is done on the brake system or if air in the brake lines is suspected, bleed the air from the system.

NOTICE: Do not let brake fluid remain on a painted surface. Wash it off immediately.


a)FILL BRAKE RESERVOIR WITH BRAKE FLUID Fluid:SAE J1703 or FMVSS No. 116 DOT3

b)BLEED MASTER CYLINDER HINT: If the master cylinder has been disassembled or if the reservoir becomes empty, bleed the air from the master cylinder.

c)Disconnect the brake lines from the master cylinder. SST 09023-00100 Slowly depress the brake pedal and hold it.

Block off the outlet plug with your finger and release the brake pedal.
Repeat (b) and (c) 3 or 4 times.


BLEED BRAKE LINE

1. Connect the vinyl tube to the caliper or wheel cylinder bleeder plug.
2. Depress the brake pedal several times, then loosen the bleeder plug with the pedal held down.
3. At the point when fluid stops coming out, tighten the bleeder plug, then release the brake pedal. Torque: (Bleeder plug) Front brake caliper
: 8.3 Nm (85 kgf-cm, 74 inch lbs.) Rear wheel cylinder: 8.5 Nm (87 kgf-cm, 75 inch lbs.)
4. Repeat (b) and (c) until all the air in the fluid has been bled out.
5. Repeat the above procedure to bleed the air out of the brake line for each wheel.

CHECK FLUID LEVEL IN RESERVOIR Check the fluid level and add fluid if necessary. Fluid: SAE J1703 or FMVSS No. 116 DOT3

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I am having problems finding a peddle after replacing the rear brake caliper any tips?There is no pressure at the caliper end of the brake line. I have checked the master cylinder and it is pumping...


it sounds like the brake pipe is blocked up with dirt or somthing,,,take the brake pipe off the rear caliper and stamp on the foot brake peddle if no fluid comes out there is the problem,,,it may be an air lock or just a blockage like you may have twisted the pipe closed doing it up to tightly? or only using one spanner insted of two!!!! if you have closed the pipe up, it would be safer to replace the pipe,,, before it blows out on you! also when you do finaly get brake fludid to the rear caliper,, press the pistons right into the caliper before bleeding the alr out then finaly pump up the brakes,,, dont bleed the brakes to slowly or the air will run back up the pipe,,,,undo the bleed nippel put your finger over the end of it and pump the foot brake about once every second till all the air is out then nip up the nippel,i hope this helps you out

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