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Adjusted clutch freeplay now bike dies when put in gear what happened

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There are two switches to check. The first one is at the clutch lever. Its there to stop you driving away if the side stand is down. It works by stalling the engine when you select gear. The other switch is down at the side stand itself. Hope this helps.

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The Clutch on some bikes will disengage the starter motor. Yamaha will not allow you to engage gear when the side stand is down. Hope this gives you some idea

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Have ttr50 2008, starts in gear, doesn't shift properly. you did not list a TTR50 so I picked the TTR125, could you still answer my questions on a TTR50 thanks!

If the bike starts when it is in gear that would indicate that the clutch switch is sticking/broken? It is located between the clutch lever and the clutch lever assembly, normally a plastic bullet shaped switch with a switch that is depressed when the clutch lever is not engaged and released when the clutch lever is pulled in. The not shifting could be down to the chain not adjusted for freeplay correctly, also lub the gear change shaft. If the chain is adjusted then check freeplay on the clutch lever normally about 10mm, but check with your handbook.

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Tranny grinds down shifting to first gear.

Most of the time when this happens either you need to adjust your clutch or you have the oil level too high in your primary.

The oil level should never be higher than the lower edge of the clutch spring when the bike is standing straight up. Check this by removing the derby cover.

To adjust the clutch, find the cable adjuster in the clutch cable. It's usually covered by a rubber bellows type cover. Slide it up or down, loosen the lock nut, and turnt he adjuster inwards to put as much freeplay in the cable as possible.

Now, since you have the derby cover off checking the fluid level, you'll see a locknut and a screw in the center of the clutch assembly. Loosen the locknut. Turn the screw inward until you feel a resistance. Do not force the screw, turn unwards until you feel the resistance. Then back the screw out 1/2 turn and lock the locknut.

Readjust the cable adjuster outwards until you have about an 1/8" of freeplay at the hand lever. Lock the lock nut on the cable adjuster and replace the cover. Replace the derby cover.

Now, when your bike is running and you have it in neutral gear and the clutch out, everything in your transmission is still spinning even though no torque is transmitted to the rear wheel. When you pull the clutch and attempt to shift into first gear, it takes time for these gears to slow down to a speed where they will engage the clutch dogs. A Harley transmission is NOT a syncronized transmission although it is a constant mesh transmission. A bit of gear clash is common on a warm transmission and even moreso when the transmission is cold.

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My aprilia rs 125 is ok out of gear but when u put it in gear it dies and have 2 rev the crap out of it

Mate I had this problem, it was the compression, had to get new piston and rings. good luck.

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My 2008 Heritage Softail has a hard time going into first gear i have to pump the clutch in order for it to drop into first

Ok, I'm going to try to answer this question but I admit that I am at a disadvantage here.

If your bike is equipped with Hydraulic Clutch, it has a handlebar master cylinder like your front brake only on the left side, you need to check the fluid level and possibly bleed the system. Since all the bikes I work on have mechanical clutches, that's as much as I can tell you.

If you have a mechanical clutch, you need to adjust the clutch as it sounds like it's not releasing completely. You can do this by looking for the bellows type adjuster cover in the middle of your clutch cable. Roll the cover back and you'll see the adjuster. Break the lock nut loose and turn the adjuster barrel outwards until you have about the thickness of nickle for freeplay on your clutch lever. Thats about 1/8 inch or 3 mm freeplay. Lock the lock nut down and try the clutch. The easy way to tell if it's releasing all the way is to do this test.

With engine off, pull the clutch in and put the bike in first gear. Since the engine is not running, you may have to rock the bike backwards and forwards a bit to get it into gear. With the clutch lever held in, turn the switch on and press the starter button. If the bike feels like it wants to move forward, your clutch in not releasing completely. You may need to adjust the clutch cable just a bit more. Don't adjust it too much or you'll get the clutch slipping when in high gear and that will burn up the clutch disc and cost you a lot of money.

One other thing that will cause this is too much oil in the primary. If you overfill the primary, the oil will get between the clutch disc and act like the torque converter in an automatic transmission. It will become a fluid drive where the moving oil will try to drive the stationary plates. With the bike standing straight up, remove the Derby cover, the plate that covers the clutch held with five bolts. If you look at the cluch assembly, you'll see a piece of metal that is black in color. This is the diaphragm spring in the clutch. The oil level should be no higher than the lower edge of this spring, just up to the bottom of the clutch assembly.

I hope this helps, Good Luck!

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Engine dies when bike is put in gear..... won't even roll when in neutral and engine off

If I recall correctly, the VStar engage/disengage point cannot be adjusted in terms of where in the range of the lever it is, something is not disengaged correctly. This typically indicates that there is too much freeplay . Reduce the freeplay just a tad and see if it resolves the problem.
clutch cables stretch with use and the adjustment at the clutch lever must be made on occasion. If there is no more adjustment at the lever, then follow the cable down and see if another adjustment is available. If not, you'll need to remove the cover to the clutch basket and find the adjustment there.
Now, just another thought. Bikes that have correct freeplay, but want to clunk and creep, may have sticky clutch plates/tension springs. This can happen when the oil is old or the bike has been sitting for longer intervals (previous owner?), or simply stuff accumulated and stuck to the plates. Not the most likely thing with your mileage, but don't completely rule it out.

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Bike wont go into gear, just had a new clutch put on and the level was low, bike had been sitting for 4 months without being ridden. What could be the causes? it's a 1990 Ultra Classic with Big Bore Kit

With bike not running, rock the bike backwards and forwards and shift through all the gears. If it shifts all the way to fifth gear and back down, then the problem is not in the transmission. If you can't shift the transmission into any gear with the bike not running, just rocking it backwards and forwards, then you've got a problem with the transmission or the shift lever mechanism.

If it does shift but you still can't get it into gear something is strange. I've seen a clutch that the plates were locked together from sitting up, but it still would shift into gear. Of course, when it did shift into first gear, the bike would lurch forward and kill the engine. In this case, we had to disassemble the clutch pack and free the plates up. If you've had a new clutch put in the bike, it could simply need an adjustment. But, usually a new clutch will have a tendency to wear in and start to slip rather than drag. When a clutch causes the bike to lurch when put into gear or become difficult to find neutral with the engine running, it's dragging. I'd check the entire clutch adjustment to start with.

Slide the rubber boot on the clutch cable up, break the lock nut loose and turn the adjuster to make the cable as short as possible. Take the derby cover off the primary to gain access to the clutch release adjuster bolt. Break the large locknut loose, adjust the center bolt inward until you feel resistance. Back the screw back out and back in until you feel resistance again several times. You want to just take the slack out of the adjustment, not start to open the clutch up. Once you've turned the bolt in and feel the resistance, back the bolt back out 1/2 to 1 complete turn. Hold the bolt in this position and lock the lock nut again. Now, adjust the clutch cable back out until you get a freeplay of about an 1/8 inch at the lever. The clutch should be adjusted well enough to release at this point. If it doesn't, the clutch plates are probably stuck.

If the clutch plates are stuck, rock the bike back and forth and shift the bike into fourth or fifth gear. Now, while holding the clutch lever in, push the bike backwards and forwards far enough to "bump" the clutch. This may break the bond between the plates and free it up. If not, you'll have to disassemble the clutch in order to free it up. Good Luck.

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I have 2003 kawasaki kx 125 when you put it in gear with clutch in it jumps forward and dies. where do i start with this?

make sure clutch ,is disengaging properly when you pull in clutch lever,adjust lever until you have about 1/8" freeplay.if still not disengaging, you need to drain gearbox oil, take clutch cover off & inspect clutch pack, you may have friction plates sticking together.

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I was wandering if I need to replace my clutch.

Have you tried adjusting your clutch cable? If the clutch was bad you would rev the engine in gear but the bike would not speed up as it should because the clutch was slipping. But if your cable is out of adjustment pulling the lever may not be disengaging the clutch. You should find the adjustment at the clutch lever, should be a larger locknut and a smaller adjusting screw. You want about 1/2" of freeplay in the lever before it starts disengaging the clutch.

Did it stall with a big **** like you didn't pull in the lever or did it just die? If it died, maybe the sidestand switch is faulting, killing the engine because it thinks your kickstand is still down.

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