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I have a 1998 VT1100C3. The battery continues to discharge when the bike is running. I replaces the starter solenoid, it kept blowing fuses. I was told the stator could be bad. I am only getting 11.5 - 11.62volts at the battery running or stopped. Voltage regulator maybe??? am lost, please advise Thanks

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Last year the stator failed in my 2003 Sabre. The voltage readings you have make sense for the stator. You're not getting enough voltage to charge the battery. I found out about many others that had stator issues with my model and year. I tried the voltage regulator 1st (it was much easier to install) and in the end it was the stator.

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