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2005 fxstbi- installing a tachometer tachometer, but no pink wire to get a rpm on tachometer. do have to go to negative side of coil? thanks.

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  • olddice Jul 31, 2010

    no it does not have a pink wire like the previous wire that I owned. I believe I will have to run a wire to the negative side of the coil. Harley in 2004 started to change things around. thanks for response. olddice

  • olddice Aug 01, 2010

    It was figured out today, tach is working. Here are the answers? You hook up your tach,red- power to ign, blue- to headlight, black to a ground. green wire, you must run a wire to your ecm. there is a slot for a tach. that is the power module behind your battery- mine was slot 3. Harley davidson on 2004- and newer did not offer the optinonal tach read out wire(pink). anyway it slot number 3 in the power module (ecm) will say tach for a 2005 night train. a good crimping tool is needed because you will need a male adapter- doche wire crimper to attach your tachometer read out. It is there and it does work. good luck please notify me for a better explaintation. safe ride to all.

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Yeah, that's what I was talking about. No pink wire on the later models but I'm sure they've got a wire for the tach on some the models that come with them. If you had a wiring diagram for one of those it would tell you what color they use now. But, if you only have one wire coming off the coil, that means there isn't another wire for a tach, Uhh. I wonder if the later models get the trigger off the crank sensor or maybe out of the ignition unit rather than the coil.

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    wd4ity Aug 01, 2010

    Thanks for the information. I was thinking that the later models would have a connection somewhere other than the coil. But, since I don't know a lot about the newer computer controlled bikes, I would not have guessed it would be on the ECM. I would have figured it would be on the ignition module. That's why I don't work on them. I work on 1999 models and earlier. Panheads, Shovelheads, and Evos are my speciality. That's why I've got a picture of my '65 FL as my avator or whatever that picture is called. Now, I'm telling my age. I'm 60 years old. Glad you got it going and thanks again for the information. Ride Safely now.



    steve

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