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Harsh gear changes up and down

Gear changes are noisy and harsh.Oil and level ok,clutch adjustment ok .13000klm .Can this problem be adjusted out via selectors or dose it sound major

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Sound's like it need's a clutch, to test this put the bike in first gear and with both fron't and rear brake's applyed try to move the bike, it should stall out or it will slip telling u it's time for a new one

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