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My '92 drs 350 has a leaky fuel petcock. it is a vacuum assist type. What would happen if I override the vacuum assist by just installing a solid gasket in place of the diaphram assembly? Flooding, leaking carb? or just epa stuff?

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It may be ok , but many bikes flood when sitting over night and fill the sump with fuel. if the carb float doesnt quite seal.
Not sure about epa , I think it shouldnt be a problem unless carb overflows and drips on the ground, during the inspection.

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It sounds like the carburetor is running out of gas. If you have the original petcock on the tank, you MUST have the vacuum line connected. When the engine starts up, vacuum from the carburetor is applied to the vacuum diaphragm in the petcock and opens the petcock. Without vacuum on the petcock, the only fuel you will get to the carb is if the needle valve in the petcock leaks.

Now, you said you had the tank painted. This is the clue. Painters pay a lot of attention to the outside of the tank but NONE to the inside. I would guess that the screen on the inside of your tank is completely blocked with small chips of paint or sanding material.

Replace the vacuum operated petcock. It's a "Motorhike" waiting to happen. A "motorhike" what you do when your bike quits and you wind up pushing it. I've seen too many of these things leave people stranded with a full tank of fuel but not a drop in the carb. Replace the OEM petcock with a high quality manually operated petcock like the old timers use. A Pingle is a very good choice. If you want to save a few bucks, check on the price of an OEM petcock for a 1995 or earlier model. Block the vacuum line off and I'd advise an inline fuel filter. Buy the sintered metal type filter that can be cleaned. These filters come in Chrome, and a few anodized colors as well.

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Check the fuel petcock to see if there's a similar-sized fitting.

Most carbureted motorcycles use vacuum lines for one thing only: To apply vacuum to the fuel petcock so it'll turn the fuel supply on ONLY when there is vacuum being applied.

Though the same bikes also typically have positions on them that override the vacuum safety system.

"Vacuum safety system"?

Yes.

Unlike a car, most bikes carry their fuel ABOVE the carb, and instead of a fuel pump, use gravity to feed the carbs. If you've got a petcock that's always open, only the float needles in the carbs hold back the fuel flow, and these are prone to being held at least partially open. The tiniest speck of debris can do it.

And the results can range from annoying to catastrophic.

If the fuel is flowing into a carb while the bike is parked, you can fill a cylinder and, when you hit the electric starter with good battery power, you can bend a connecting rod since liquids cannot be compressed. The piston will slam into the incompressible liquid and if the starter's stout enough, there goes a rod.

Or if the fuel leaks into a cylinder whose exhaust valve is open at the time, the bike will start but sometimes you're left wondering what that loud bang was and why are you feeling so warm and where on earth did that muffler go?

You should get this taken care of quickly because if I'm correct about this line, not only are you having to use manual override positions on the petcock (not a biggie -- the vacuum part is a frequent failure point -- just turn the petcock off when you park it), you have a vacuum leak which can result in at least poor running and though the leak is quite small, there's the possibility of running too lean and burning a hole through a piston, which kinda sucks.

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