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Anonymous Posted on May 15, 2010

My heaters pilot wont stay on and ive replaced the thermocoupler and pilot assembly and replaced the gas valve and it still wont stay lit what could cause that? and its a teledyne laars lite llg series

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Problem with the thermocoupler its not producing a minivolt of 250 plus that is needed to open the main gas valve

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