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Bike wont start

Battery works, starter works but doesn't start the engine. Seems like spark plugs aren't firing, but it doesn't make sense that they would all quit working at once. I suspect something electrical but I am unsure where to start.

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I have had batterys that will put out enough amps to spin the starter, but will do this with a voltage to low for the electronic ignition to fire the spark plugs. Can you push start the bike? If he bike has been sitting for a while it helps to drain the carb bowls to get some fresh fuel from the tank into them. Sorry this is a couple of quick fix options, you may need to post the question again if this doesnt help

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