Question about Honda VTR 1000 F Firestorm Motorcycles

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My Honda VTR 1000 motorcycle has no power to lights, ignition or starter. Bike ran fine before I added an electric vest to the battery, but I left the key in the ignition when I powered the vest up. Apparently the vest manual says "not to leave key in ignition while turning vest on" or it will cause power surge. I checked the battery is 100% good all fuses including the starter fuse was fine. There is power getting to the starter relay but no further. I was wondering if I should test the relay by by-passing it? - ie connect the wiring from the battery directly to the red wire that leads to the main fusebox so I can see if that gets power? Any thoughts. Is wiring the main fusebox from the battery dangerous to the harness?

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  • jp_burdett May 03, 2010

    Hi there I am trying to avoid going to the dealer to fix it. 90$ an hour for diagnostics + I have to tow the bike to the dealer, big hassle so I'm looking for more expert advice if possible.

  • jp_burdett May 03, 2010

    But if the battery was say 80% wouldn't' it at least power the accessory lights? I've had poor battery in this machine before, and it would at least power lights and the starter solenoid would click. But in this case there is no electricity going thru starter module and thus the wiring harness whatsoever. I'll try it tonight and see what happens.

    Thanks!




  • jp_burdett May 04, 2010

    Yep, I checked that (30 amp) fuse, its totally fine. All other fuses look A-OK too. And all the connectors look good nothing looks melted. I would have expected a power surge to kill the fuses first, or melt something but this is very tricky to diagnose.

    where should I investigate next?

    thanks


  • jp_burdett May 05, 2010

    Thank for all the help. I went through the entire procedure and still no power which made no sense. That is until of course I realized that the negative connector was not attached at all, I didnt see it disconnected under all the new aux wires I had attached!!!! Everything is fine, live and learn.

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Hi and welcome to FixYa,

The initial questions presents a workable approach:

  • test the relay by by-passing it;
  • connect the wiring from the battery directly to the red wire;
  • leads to the main fusebox;
  • wiring the main fusebox from the battery dangerous to the harness.
Proposed test procedures with notes:
  1. switch ignition switch to ON;
  2. with a short piece of electrical wire, jump from the battery's + terminal to the red wire coming from the starter relay;
  3. do the same with the red/white wire;
  4. if indicator lights lit up, then main 30A fuse maybe good but its fuse spade connector(s) are not. replace starter relay;
  5. alternately, clean the fuse holder terminals;
  6. if still no indicator lights, move the jumper wire from the starter relay red wire of the ignition switch;
  7. if indicator lights would be lit, then an open wire / connector from the starter relay to the ignition switch;
  8. if still no indicator lights, move the jumper wire to the red/black wire of the ignition switch;
  9. if indicator lights would be lit, then a faulty ignition switch;
  10. if indicator lights would still not lit, move the jumper wire to the fuse box's red/black wire.

Good luck and thank you for asking FixYa.

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Under the cover of the starter relay is the main fuse. Pull the cover and check that fuse.

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U are 100% sure the battery is good, u had it load tested? because what u are describing is a battery problem 99% of the time, have the battery LOAD TESTED BEFORE YOU RULE THAT OUT, IF U DO JUMP THE STARTER RELAY AND IT ODESN'T CRANK OVER THEN Y DEFINITELY HAVE A BATTERY OR BATTERY CONNECTION PROBLEM.

Posted on May 03, 2010

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    yadayada May 04, 2010

    IF THE STARTER DOESN'T SOLENOID CLICK TAKE MY ADVICE AND HAVE THE BATTERY TESTED, LOOK BEEN RIDING AN FIXING JAPANESE BIKES FOR 45 YEARS, CHECK THE BATTERY, HAVE IT PROFESSIONALY TESTED, ANY KRAGEN OR AUTOZONE WILL DO IT FOR FREE.

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Hello. Before any more damage is done, take your bike to an autoelectric repair shop. They have all of the diagnostic tools necessary to pinpoint the problem and then fix it. Joe

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