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Idle problem. the bike wont stay idling, i adjusted the screws to 1.5 turns out, and tightened the throttle cable coming from the throttle and still doesnt idle without working the throttle.. timing maybe?

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  • steve May 11, 2010

    Was it a thumbscrew that you adjusted by hand or a slot headed screw adjusted by screwdriver?? Cheers Bike-Doc

  • dimitris mashas May 11, 2010

    did you adjust the valves ?

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The timing is factory set and doesnt change, does it have the idle screw? I assume the one you adjusted is the air mixture screw at 1.5, you shouldnt adjust with the cable as it might cause the engine to rev on full lock, it needs a small amount of freeplay

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Please rate this solution. Thanks throttlejock!



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