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Anonymous Posted on Apr 13, 2010

Tiny spark at negative terminal as ground wire when attached

Tiny spark at negative terminal as ground wire was attached. OK, or problem to uncover? 2007 heritage softtail. elec ignition
Very small, might be security system, but not equiped. ? are there on-board clock-sized systems such as odometers, instrumentation, etc. both switches were off at time of installation.

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If all your instruments works fine then just check if any loose connection can be found. Just 2b safe.
The other thing is NEVER connect your battery while engine is running.

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Terminal locations on the engine controller 14-way connector-1989 models
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