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Cannot find Deutsch connectors for handlebar switch harness. Where are the connectors located?

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  • escher426 Dec 11, 2009

    Thanks for your help. That's where I thought they would be too but the handlebar wiring comes from the switches and then disappears down into the top frame tube. I cannot find the plugs down by the swingarm pivot which is where the wiring resurfaces from the top tube so can only assume they are somewhere inside the top frame tube? but there is no access.

  • escher426 Dec 14, 2009

    Bike has tank, seat,battery and carrier removed. Pretty much stripped to the frame. Am putting on some higher bars so need to extend wiring. Have bought a 'wiring extension kit' that consists of extra lengths of wiring with the correct male and female terminals to enable me to disconnect the wires at the deutsch connectors and add in the extensions. Would all be simple if I could locate them!

  • escher426 Dec 14, 2009

    Oh yeah, the bike is 100% standard.

  • escher426 Dec 15, 2009

    No Problem. Appreciate your help.
    have a good Christmas.

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Duetch connectors are the plastic multi wire plugs. All handlebar wiring likely terminates in the headlight housing.

Posted on Dec 10, 2009

  • Jeff Hagemann Dec 12, 2009

    OK, lets see if I can help you figure this out. Tell me more details. Is the bike apart down to the frame so you can see and touch the wires in and out of the frame? Is this a stock bike? Why are you wanting to find the connectors? etc. The more info I have the better I can visualize what we're working on and what the goal is.

  • Jeff Hagemann Dec 14, 2009

    Thanks for the information but Im afraid I can not help you. There have been times in similar situations when I have cut the wire harness and soldered in the new switches. However these were custom bikes I was working on and I am not confident that this would be the proper solution for your circumstance. Especially if its possible that you may want to return to the current set up.

    Again, Im sorry I can not help you. Possibly another expert could assist you better.

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