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Injectors not operating on '''04 softail.

Put in a new pump...new filter...new regulater...new fuel delivery line and still no fuel thru the injecters. HELP> PLEASE!

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Try with gaz cap open , if work then cap vent blocked... check to see if gaz flows from the tank
it should only when cranking as it needs vacum from engine to open diaphram in petcock

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This sounds like a fuel pump or fuel filter problem.
The 1988 Jetta has two fuel pumps. The "main" one under the car directly in front of the gas tank on the right hand side. The other fuel pum is in the tank. You can access that fuel pum by removing the round access panel in the trunk towards the back seat.

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FUEL DELIVERY & SYSTEM PRESSURES
System Pressure
Connect Pressure Gauge (VW 1318) between line from fuel distributor to cold start valve and
test port connection on lower chamber of fuel distributor, using Adapter Fittings (VW 1318/5).
Test port is sealed by a threaded plug. Bridge fuel pump relay with Jumper Switch (US 4480/3).
1.
Disconnect wiring from Differential Pressure Regulator (DPR). Open valve on pressure gauge
(points at cold start valve line when open) and activate fuel pump. System pressure must be 75-
82 psi (5.3-5.8 kg/cm2 ). If pressure reading is low and fuel pump delivery quantity is good,
replace pressure regulator.
2.
If pressure reading is high, disconnect fuel tank return line from DPR. Repeat test. If reading is
correct, check for plugged return line. If reading is incorrect with line open, replace DPR.
3.
Differential Control Pressure
Close valve on pressure gauge. Activate fuel pump with jumper switch. Leave DPR
disconnected. DPR reading should be 2.9-7.0 psi (.2-.5 kg/cm2 ) less than system pressure. If
pressure is incorrect, disconnect lower chamber return line and measure volume.
1.
Close open port to diaphragm pressure regulator. Activate fuel pump with jumper switch. Fuel
volume should be .14-.16 qts. (.13-.15L) for period of one minute. If volume is correct, replace
DPR. If volume is incorrect, replace fuel distributor.
2.
Close valve on pressure gauge. Install Test Harness (1315A/1) between DPR and vehicle
harness. Set multimeter to DCA 200 mA scale. Connect multimeter to test harness. Disconnect
wiring to coolant temperature sensor. Connect 15 k/ohm side of Test Resistor (VW 1490) to
sensor wiring.
3.
Turn on ignition and fuel pump. Differential pressure should be 10-17.5 psi (.7-1.2 kg/cm2 )
less than system pressure. DPR current should be 50-80 mA. If pressure is incorrect and current
is correct, replace DPR.
4.
If both pressure and current readings are incorrect, remove test harness from DPR. Ensure
resistance of DPR is 17.5-21.5 ohms. If reading is incorrect, replace DPR.
5.
If reading is correct, check ground from temperature sensor to cold start valve. If ground is
good, check power supply fuse. If fuse is okay, check terminals on ECU connector. If connector
is okay, replace ECU.
6.
Residual Pressure & Internal Leak Testing
Open valve on pressure gauge. Operate fuel pump for 30 seconds. Pressure can drop to a
minimum of 38 psi (2.7 kg/cm2 ) after 10 minutes. If pressure drops below specification, inspect
fuel pump check valve and all fuel fittings for leakage.
1.
NOTE: Pressure and leak testing does not include checking cold start
valve.
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If there are no leaks, check airflow sensor plate clearance. If plate clearance is correct, replace
diaphragm pressure regulator and repeat leak test. If pressure drop is not within specification,
replace fuel distributor "O" rings.
2.
Transfer Pump Delivery Volume
Check voltage supply to pumps. Connect Jumper Switch (US 4480/3) in place of fuel pump
relay, on relay panel. Remove fuel filler cap. Disconnect and plug off Black fuel line from
sending unit.
1.
Connect hose to sender port and place in measuring container. Turn on fuel pumps. Minimum
transfer pump delivery volume should be .42 qts. (.4L) in 10 seconds. Reconnect fuel line to
sender.
2.
Main Pump Delivery Volume
Check transfer pump (if equipped) and fuel filter. Disconnect fuel return line and place in
measuring container. Switch on fuel pump with jumper switch. Check fuel pump delivery
volume for 30 second period. Delivery rates are given with voltage reading at pump as volume
will change with different voltages.
1.
Minimum delivery volume for Fox, Quantum and Quantum Syncro models is .71 qts. (.68L) for
30 seconds with reading of 11.4 volts at fuel pump. Minimum delivery volume for other models
is .62 qts. (.59L) with 11.4 volts at fuel pump.
2.
Fuel Distributor
Check sensor plate adjusting lever and fuel distributor control piston for smooth operation.
Disconnect fuel injector lines at fuel injectors.
1.
Remove fuel pump relay and bridge fuel pump circuit. Use Jumper Switch (US 4480/3) in place
of fuel pump relay. When pressure has built up, turn off fuel pump. Move sensor plate from rest
position to end of travel.
2.
Uniform resistance should be felt during entire movement. No resistance should be felt on
quick return to rest position. Connect injector lines. Install fuel pump relay.
3.
Injector Quantity Comparison
Remove fuel pump relay, from relay panel, and install Jumper Switch (US 4480/3) in off
position in place of relay. Attach Fuel Quantity Analyzer (US 4480) to bumper and secure in
place. Remove injectors from cylinder head with fuel lines attached. Check and replace fuel
injector "O" rings as necessary.
1.
Check tightness of injector insert (2-piece inserts). If inserts are loose, remove and clean
threads. Use sealing compound when installing upper insert. Replace sealing washer that goes
against cylinder head below lower portion of insert. Lubricate injector "O" rings with gasoline
and install injectors, with fuel lines connected, into fuel quantity analyzer tubes.
2.
Ensure lines are not kinked or bent. Loosen fittings to align fuel lines and retighten. Remove
rubber boot from airflow sensor housing above sensor plate. Turn and lift setting screw and
adjusting slide of Sensor Plate Adjustable Holder (VW 1348/1) into upper position. This
simulates full throttle operation. See Fig. 11 .
3.
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Fig. 11: Sensor Plate Adjustable Holder (VW 1348/1)
Courtesy of AUDI OF AMERICA, INC.
Place sensor plate adjustable holder on airflow sensor housing with holder centered over plate.
Pointer on edge of holder base must point toward center of fuel distributor. Push adjusting slide
of holder down onto stop.
4.
Turn adjusting screw clockwise until magnetic end touches sensor plate retaining bolt. Activate
fuel pump with jumper switch. Turn adjusting screw of holder counterclockwise until any one
injector starts to deliver fuel. Turn off jumper switch and empty fuel quantity analyzer after
taking sample.
5.
Idle injection quantity is measured first. Lifting adjusting slide of holder to first stop simulates
idle position of sensor plate. Activate fuel pump until fuel level reaches 20 ml on scale of any
tube.
6.
Check that all injectors have identical spray patterns that are even and cone-shaped. If not, raise
sensor plate up quickly to full lift position and release. Repeat idle quantity test. Compare
amounts of fuel delivered by all injectors with analyzer held level. Maximum difference in
delivery quantity between injectors is 3.0 ml of fuel.
7.
If fuel delivery quantity differs between high and low levels by more than 3.0 ml, interchange
injectors and repeat test. If difference of delivery quantity changes with injectors, replace
injectors. If difference of delivery quantity does not change with movement of injectors, either
fuel lines are pinched or fuel distributor is defective.
8.
Measure full throttle injection quantity. Empty analyzer into fuel tank and reinstall injectors in
analyzer. Lift adjusting slide of holder to last stop to simulate full throttle position of sensor
plate. Activate fuel pump with jumper switch until fuel level reaches 80 ml on scale of any tube
of analyzer.
9.
Check that all injectors have identical spray patterns that are even and cone-shaped. If not, raise
sensor plate up quickly to full lift position and release. Repeat full throttle quantity test.
Compare amounts of fuel delivered by all injectors with analyzer held level. Maximum
difference in delivery quantity between injectors is 8.0 ml of fuel.
10.
If fuel delivery quantity differs between high and low levels by more than 8.0 ml, interchange
injectors and repeat test. If difference of delivery quantity changes with injectors, replace
injectors. If difference of delivery quantity does not change with movement of injectors, either
fuel lines are pinched or fuel distributor is defective.
11.
Check fuel injectors for leakage immediately after delivery quantity test is complete. Set sensor
plate in rest position. Activate fuel pump with jumper switch for 2 minutes. Injectors should not
drip. Replace injectors that drip.
See image. Fuel filter is probably located on the frame between the engine and fuel tank.
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Do you have 2.0L SPI engine or 2.0L Zetec engine?
Look on the page with the * to find the lowest price part.
aso, check for shorted wire going to injectors
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Mechanical Returnless Fuel System The fuel system consists of a fuel tank with reservoir, fuel pump, fuel pressure regulator, fuel filter, fuel supply line, fuel rail, fuel rail pulse damper, fuel injectors, and schrader/pressure test point. Operation of the system is as follows (Figure 62):
  1. The fuel delivery system is enabled during crank or running mode once the PCM receives a crankshaft position (CKP) sensor signal.
  1. The fuel pump logic is defined in the fuel system control strategy and is executed by the PCM.
  1. The PCM grounds the fuel pump relay, which provides VPWR to the fuel pump.
  1. The inertia fuel shut-off (IFS) switch is used to de-energize the fuel delivery secondary circuit in the event of collision. The IFS switch is a safety device that should only be reset after a thorough inspection of the vehicle (following a collision).
  1. A pressure test point valve (schrader valve) is located on the fuel rail. This is used to measure fuel injector supply pressure for diagnostic procedures and repairs. ON VEHICLES NOT EQUIPPED WITH A SCHRADER VALVE, USE ROTUNDA FUEL PRESSURE TEST KIT #134—R0087 OR EQUIVALENT.
  1. Located on the fuel rail is a pulse damper. The pulse damper reduces fuel system noise caused by the pulsing of the fuel injectors. The vacuum port located on the damper is connected to manifold vacuum to avoid fuel spillage in the event the pulse damper diaphragm were to rupture (the pulse damper should not be confused with a fuel pressure regulator).
  1. The fuel injector is a solenoid-operated valve that meters the fuel flow to each combustion cylinder. The fuel injector is opened and closed a constant number of times per crankshaft revolution. The amount of fuel is controlled by the length of time the fuel injector is held open. The injector is normally closed and is operated by 12 volt VPWR from the power relay. The ground signal is controlled by the PCM.
  1. There are three filtering or screening devices in the fuel delivery system. The intake sock is a fine, nylon mesh screen mounted on the intake side of the fuel pump. There is a fuel filter screen located at the fuel rail side of the fuel injector. The fuel filter assembly is located between the fuel pump and the pressure test point/schrader valve.
  1. The fuel pump (FP) module contains the fuel pump, fuel pressure regulator and the fuel sender assembly. The fuel pressure regulator is attached to the fuel pump in the fuel pump module located in the fuel tank. It regulates fuel pressure supplied to the fuel injectors. The fuel pressure regulator is a diaphragm-operated relief valve. Fuel pressure is established by a spring preload applied to the diaphragm. Excess fuel is bypassed through the regulator and returned to the fuel tank.

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    Figure 62: Fuel System—Mechanical Returnless
Electronic Returnless Fuel System The fuel system consists of a fuel tank with reservoir, fuel pump, fuel rail pressure sensor, fuel filter, fuel supply line, engine fuel temperature sensor, fuel rail, fuel injectors, and schrader/pressure test point. Operation of the system is as follows (Figure 63) and (Figure 64):
  1. The fuel delivery system is enabled during crank or running mode once the PCM receives a crankshaft position (CKP) sensor signal.
  1. The fuel pump logic is defined in the fuel system control strategy and is executed by the PCM.
  1. The PCM commands a duty cycle to the fuel pump driver module (FPDM).
  1. The fuel pump driver module modulates the voltage to the fuel pump (FP) to achieve the proper fuel pressure. Voltage for the fuel pump is supplied by the power relay or FPDM power supply relay. (For additional information on FPDM operation, refer to PCM Outputs—Fuel Pump and PCM Inputs—FPM.)
  1. The fuel rail pressure (FRP) sensor provides the PCM with the current fuel rail pressure. The PCM uses this information to vary the duty cycle output to the FPDM to compensate for varying loads.
  1. The engine fuel temperature (EFT) sensor measures current fuel temperatures in the fuel rail. This information is used to vary the fuel pressure and avoid fuel system vaporization.
  1. The fuel injector is a solenoid-operated valve that meters the fuel flow to each combustion cylinder. The fuel injector is opened and closed a constant number of times per crankshaft revolution. The amount of fuel is controlled by the length of time the fuel injector is held open. The injector is normally closed and is operated by 12 volt VPWR from the power relay. The ground signal is controlled by the PCM.
  1. A pressure test point valve (schrader valve) is located on the fuel rail. This is used to measure fuel injector supply pressure for diagnostic procedures and repairs. ON VEHICLES NOT EQUIPPED WITH A SCHRADER VALVE, USE ROTUNDA FUEL PRESSURE TEST KIT #134—R0087 OR EQUIVALENT.
  1. There are three filtering or screening devices in the fuel delivery system. The intake sock is a fine, nylon mesh screen mounted on the intake side of the fuel pump. There is a fuel filter screen located at the fuel rail side of the fuel injector. The fuel filter assembly is located between the fuel pump and the pressure test point/schrader valve.
  1. The fuel pump (FP) module is a device that contains the fuel pump and the fuel sender assembly. The fuel pump is located inside the reservoir and supplies fuel through the fuel pump module manifold to the engine and the fuel pump module jet pump.
  1. The inertia fuel shut-off (IFS) switch is used to de-energize the fuel delivery secondary circuit in the event of a collision. The IFS switch is a safety device that should only be reset after a thorough inspection of the vehicle (following a collision

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The fuel delivery system uses an electric fuel pump to provide high-pressure fuel to the fuel injectors. The fuel pump is located at the rear of the vehicle, mounted in the fuel tank. It can be accessed by removing the rear seat.

The fuel tubes leading from the fuel tank to the engine are under pressure during vehicle operation. When the engine is turned OFF, the fuel in the fuel tubes remains pressurized for long periods of time to provide quick start-ups. Fuel not used by the fuel injectors during operation is routed back to the fuel tank through the fuel return tube.

The fuel handling components are protected by three fuel filters. A replaceable in-line fuel filter is located inside the engine compartment between the fuel tank and fuel injection supply manifold. A serviceable filter screen is located inside the fuel tank at the fuel pump inlet. A non-serviceable filter screen is incorporated into each fuel injector.


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