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Lacks power at end of gear, its like a old 4 stroke, no power band and just goes at a steady speed.

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    Douglas Hansen May 11, 2010

    Hows the plug look. Did you do a compression test, and how long has it been since you have cleaned your power valves?



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At the "end of gear" sounds like at red line on RPM. All engines jsut stop making power there. Look at your engines torque curve and you will see it flattens significantly at peak rpms. Shift sooner

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