Question about 2008 Triumph Sprint ST

1 Answer

Rattle in the top end of my engine when cold starting like no lubrication at the top end

Posted by on

Ad

1 Answer

  • Level 1:

    An expert who has achieved level 1.

    Hot-Shot:

    An expert who has answered 20 questions.

    Corporal:

    An expert that hasĀ over 10 points.

    Mayor:

    An expert whose answer gotĀ voted for 2 times.

  • Contributor
  • 34 Answers

With your bike being so new I wouldn't think an oil pump problem. I have an 07 ZX14 and when warming up it has a "ticky" oil starved sound too. As well built as Triumph's are probably just an odd warm up circut the oil goes thru. Depending on what type of oil you use I suggest adding an oil stabilizer like Lucas or Amsoil.Just be sure to buy the correct additive. They make it for conventional oil and synthetic.This should be done at the time of an oil change not just added to what you have already. Wouldn't want to overfill the case. Do you have a service manual? If not, they can be a huge help. They can cost upwards of $100.00 but may help with small issue's like this.And starting a good relationship with your local dealer is always a main objective. Most will help with over the counter problems if you drop by now and then being that "local" guy. It is a misconseption they all just want your money. Most are just bike people helping bike people. Though not always so feel it out.

Posted on Jul 12, 2009

Ad

1 Suggested Answer

6ya6ya
  • 2 Answers

SOURCE: I have freestanding Series 8 dishwasher. Lately during the filling cycle water hammer is occurring. How can this be resolved

Hi there,
Save hours of searching online or wasting money on unnecessary repairs by talking to a 6YA Expert who can help you resolve this issue over the phone in a minute or two.

Best thing about this new service is that you are never placed on hold and get to talk to real repairmen in the US.

Here's a link to this great service

Good luck!

Posted on Jan 02, 2017

Ad

Add Your Answer

Uploading: 0%

my-video-file.mp4

Complete. Click "Add" to insert your video. Add

×

Loading...
Loading...

Related Questions:

1 Answer

Driver side rattling noise disappears as speed up very loud when slow down coming from engine its a mini cooper 56 plate with only 31000 on the clock


It can be a number of issues if the noise is engine related but have the oil pressure checked with an external oil pressure gauge.
Most mechanics will have them.
I would also change the oil and oil filter immediately and ensure you ONLY use the correct oil as specified by the manufacturer for that engine. (Using an incorrect formulation or the wrong grade will cause engine issues).

I suspect the engine is losing oil pressure and oil flow at low RPM and you are getting metal to metal contact on the top end of the engine when this happens as the low pressure is producing a lack lubrication to the upper end of the engine. At higher RPM the oil pressure increases as does the oil flow and the noisy internals are getting sufficient lubrication again or at least enough to eliminate metal to metal contact and stop the rattling.

Dec 19, 2015 | Cars & Trucks

1 Answer

Hi i have a 2004 vwlt 2.5tdi when the engine gets warm theres a tapping/rattle from top of head i seem to be worse as you let of the throttle,no smoke or lost of power any suggestion cheers jeff


MOTOR IS NOT GETTING ENOUGH OIL TO THE TOP END TO LUBRICATE VALVES AND LIFTERS. POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS; OIL PUMP NEEDS REPLACED, ENGINE NEEDS FLUSHED, OIL AND FILTER CHANGE. BAD RESULT MOTOR WILL EVENTUALLY BLOW UP IF NOT ATTENDED TO SOON.

Jan 14, 2011 | Volkswagen Eurovan Cars & Trucks

1 Answer

When I start the engine first thing in the morning it makes a clattering sound,until it runs for a minute


the clattering is most likely valves rattling until the oil gets up to top of engine,recommend change the oil and filter,use a good filter like fram oil filter,i've always used castrol 30 weight oil in winter,then summer 40 weight, also recommend you add lucas oil treatment,1 bottle,add with your oil change for top end lubrication,the oil stays and clings onto valves and adds a whole lot more of top end lubrication to your engine than just regular oil.it's just a treatment,i have a 1994 ford explorer with 450.000 miles on it.just trying to see how far i can go with original motor.but i always use castrol oil,fram oil filter and always add lucas oil treatment every time i change my oil.thank you for choosing fixya.com good luck!

Jan 05, 2011 | 2002 Chevrolet Tahoe

1 Answer

My Audi A4 2009 makes a rattling noise on cold starts which resolves in less than 30 seconds. Dealer says its an air pump. This doesn't seem correct. The noise comes from the front of the care. Does not...


READ THIS (happy ending so far...):
audi a4 2L turbo quattro, manual transmission with 98,000 KM. Perfect conditions, no oil leaks whatsoever.

Left the car off for two weeks in very cold weather (-10C down to -25C). When I restarted, it started immediately but with heavy rattling noise due to camshaft adjuster not getting enough oil pressure. After 3 minutes of warming up (outside temp.: -12C) at very low rpm (below 2,000rpm), I start moving the car. Still hearing heavy rattle noise. As soon as I pass 2,000 rpm, I get a scary red warning, low oil pressure. Turn off the engine immediately. In 1 minute, I re-start the car and the engine lights check ok, so I drive in first gear super slow (1,200rpm) hearing the same rattling noise. After another minute, finally the noise all the sudden disappears and the car starts running just fine.

Called Audi dealer and they told me that in extreme weather conditions, I should warm the engine for 10-15 minutes if necessary before start moving.
Take away: luckily, I didn't screw up the engine since I was using it at extremely low rpm (easy to do with clutch and manual transmission) until the oil reached full pressure. I am pretty sure now that the problem was leaving the car off for such a long time in freezing weather. All the oil flows back to the bottom, and when I restarted it, the cold oil with high viscosity took a long time to reach all the parts of the engine, specially the camshaft adjusters that are actuated by using oil pressure. Next day, the car started at -9C perfectly without making any noise (as usual). Basically, the longer you leave your audi in cold weather, the longer you might hear the rattling noise until the oil reach full pressure inside the engine. My car took 6 minutes to fix it after couple of weeks in cold weather. This makes sense to me; in fact, in the past I only heard the rattling noise after leaving the car off for a couple of days in the winter.
So far, this has had an happy ending....

45c65dc9-a532-4a66-8fae-1a04901663e5.png

Dec 19, 2010 | 2009 Audi A4

1 Answer

Hi, i have a toyota fielder 1.8cc with a some problem which has now come up. when i switch on esp in the morning after staying overnight, it produces some really annoying sound from the engine. when the...


If it is a 'squealing' noise it's probably the alternator/power steering drive belt. Before you turn on the engine in the morning, lightlt smear or spray some oil on the inside of the drive belt to lubricate it. If the squealing stops/disappears, then that's the fault ..

That squealing noise can be caused by an incorrectly tensioned belt, or a worn belt. Replacement is the only option.

The other frightening sounds can best be described as 'rattles' or 'tapping'. When a car stands overnight all the oil drains back into the sump (oil/pan).

There are two things (usually) that can be cause the rattle/tap:
1. Because the oil hasn't been pumped around the system, at start up worn big end bearings can rattle and tap on the crankshaft until the oil 'fills the gaps'. The tapping/rattling goes away as the engine warms and oil is pumped around the lubricating system.

A 'bottom end tapping' is a symptom of worn big ends (they are bearings at the bottom of the piston and fit around the crankshaft).

2. A rattle/tapping from the top of the engine can either be a worn camshaft or 'lazy tappets'. Again, when the engine warms and oil gets to the camshaft and tappets (also called 'hydraulic lifters) the noise will disappear.

If your car has this rattling/tapping noise - identify whether it is coming from just under the rocker box (ie the camshaft/tappets..) or the bottom end of the engine (big end bearings).

If the noise is coming from the top of the engine, try an oil change with a can of thick 'additive' included. A lazy tappet (lifter) isn't too much to worry about. A worn camshaft will affect the performance of the engine, though continue to do its job. An oil change with an additive included may help in quitening things down.

A bottom end tap/rattle (or 'knock') - the sooner that is sorted out the better.

Aug 16, 2010 | Toyota Corolla Cars & Trucks

2 Answers

97 grand marui rattling noise sounds like marble


sounds like your catalatic convertor,lifters?

Jan 02, 2010 | 1994 Mercury Grand Marquis

2 Answers

I have a 2001 Ford ranger supercab that makes rattling noises. It has a 4.0L SOHC. It makes a very fast and loud metallic rattle wich softens anfter about a second or so when I first start it for the day....


4.0l's are notorious for valve rattle on cold start-up. There is really nothing you can do to make it go away short of completely replacing the valve train in the top end, and that isn't a permanent fix. It's is an top end oiling issue from the factory. Just don't race your engine on cold start-up until the rattle stops.

The rattle in the transmission sounds to me to be more of a loose dust shield/heat shield around the transmission or exhaust than a mechanical issue.

Oct 20, 2009 | 2000 Ford Ranger SuperCab

1 Answer

Rattle in top end


Have you adjusted the valve lash lately?
With engine COLD....
Valve Clearance Intake: 0.11 - 0.15mm ( = 0.004 - 0.006")
Valve Clearance Exhaust: 0.16 - 0.20mm (= 0.006 - 0.008")
29mm shim kits with a wide range of sizes are available from aftermarket dealers. (motion pro shim tool works great)
Also a weak valve spring will cause the valve to "float" and make a rattle noise...as well as excessive camshaft end play.
Make sure your valve train is getting proper lubrication.
Good luck....i hope this helps

May 25, 2009 | 1981 Yamaha XJ 650

3 Answers

Engine started rattling


Have you enough oil in it?

Jan 20, 2009 | 2002 Volkswagen Golf

3 Answers

2004 expedition


This may be due to old oil. I'd first try changing the oil. The viscosity of old oil may be to thin causing serious run off in the top end. All of the lubrication may be off of the valve assembly causing it to chatter and make these noises until the motor can re-lubricate the valve train.

Also, it may be due to low oil, to heavy of a wieght of oil (such as 15w40 or 20x50). I believe with most of the 04's the recommended oil weight is 5w30.

Try an oil change and see if the noise goes away. If it doesn't I'd do a quick visual inspection under the hood for rattling parts while the engine is running. It could just be a loose housing or something causing the noise. Hope this helps bud!

Sep 11, 2008 | 2004 Ford Expedition

Not finding what you are looking for?
2008 Triumph Sprint ST Logo

356 people viewed this question

Ask a Question

Usually answered in minutes!

Top Triumph Experts

Arnie Burke
Arnie Burke

Level 3 Expert

5055 Answers

Marvin
Marvin

Level 3 Expert

81400 Answers

Colin Stickland
Colin Stickland

Level 3 Expert

22326 Answers

Are you a Triumph Expert? Answer questions, earn points and help others

Answer questions

Manuals & User Guides

Loading...