Using to much oil on long trips 2004 gsx1400 suzuki
I have had the bike since 7500 miles it has now done 22000 i have always had to do regular top ups. when i have gone to europe the oil light has come on after 2000miles and i have had to put in over 2 ltrs.the bike sounds fine when runing and performs well.apart from taking the head off and looking for piston ring ware etc..could i have overlooked something.I am using 10/40 semi.Will the bike use more oil if it drops below the viewing glass.
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Re: using to much oil on long trips 2004 gsx1400 suzuki
That is a lot of oil - is it blowing smoke? Is there any indication of where the oil is going?
The GSX engine is bulletproof - normally - and doesn't use much oil at all. I have serviced 35,000 mile bikes after 7500 miles and the oil has been spot on.
Looking on the net, it seems the 1400 is a bit vulnerable to oil-cooler damage. With an air/oil cooled bike this could be an indication of where the problem lies. The engine won't leak oil while stationary - well, maybe a drop... but when it is warm and under revs any hole in the oil cooler could be a direct exit point for oil. Look for stains on the exhaust headers - if you are driving and there is a leak, that'll be the first place the oil will go.
It would be the first place I would look - as well as oil cooler, pipes, connectors...
Run the bike for a while and try to inspect it to see if there are any leaks you can spot while the engine is running.
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For regular engine oil I still believe that 3000 is a safe benchmark, also always change the filter with it. Full Syn. oils can go 5000 to 7500 miles, same rule on the filter. Do not forget the Transmission also, any fluid gets old and it quits doing all the good stuff its made for. It is also the cheapest car Insurance you can buy.
Hello...from your comment it sounds like your bike needs a valve adjustment. The "hollow" sound in the exhaust and the powerband loss is usually a good indication of this. Have you had them adjusted lately? This first adjustment should be done at 5000 miles and then every 7500 miles there after. The settings are: Intake .003 - .005 Exhaust .007 - .009 Always set valves on a COLD engine.
To keep it simple: Your car should have used synthetic oil originally:
If you are using Regular Motor Oil - I found through many years of doing oil changes & auto repairs that 3000 miles is the MAX you should drive before changing. After that it tends to lose it's protective qualities & you can actually feel the difference (once you've removed a few thousand dipsticks) in the viscosity.
Synthetic Lubricant- Higher Quality Products will make your car last longer & I can suggest no better improvement to anyones vehicle than to use Synthetic Oil. Change at 6000-7500 miles depending on type driving. City, Idling a lot, hard driving = 6000 & Cruising/highway regular speeds=7500.
Always make sure your air filter is clean & a new Oil filter is installed each time as this will keep the new oil clean longer which provides better lubrication & performance. Some car Mfgs say to skip oil filter change & do every other but I like the results I have rec'd with changing it each time. It also helps to keep the new oil cleaner by not mixing in the dirty oil that is in the filter & associated piping.
If your car is running well, stick with the 5W30 that was recommended as Honda engines are extremely close tolerance. If it has used regular motor oil & is a little noisy, during the warmer weather you could step up to a 10w40 or even better a 15W50 in the summer, preferably Synthetic. Better fuel economy, acceleration & less wear & tear.
Finally: 140K should earn you a badge. That's just a well broken in Honda if it's been well maintained and you should expect much more service from it. I hope that this helps. Good luck!
hey, just finished huge ride across europe on one. Look at radiator and water pump, check oil levels and type of oil used. sounds like a blockage in water pump and or, radiator or hoses. Check electrical fan is running after bike stops? If fan is not working the bike will over heat as it requires fan to draw air trough the radiator constantly. Terry Tourer Australia
the maintenance light staying on means that you have passed your scheduled 7500 miles w/o an oil change etc... if you have just done the service, they should have reset it for you. on your particular model, up to the first 6000 miles the light will come on for around 2 seconds when the ignition is turned on, between 6000 and 7500 miles the same will happen, except after the ignition is on, the light flashes for 10 seconds. the third is what you have, a light that will not turn of after 7500 miles without service. to reset, with the ignition off, press and hold your reset button on the instrument panel and start your vehicle and keep the button held down for 10 seconds, it should turn off. I hope this takes care of it for you, Good Luck!
You would be better off to drain the oil this time. The first 500 miles on a bike is going to break it in. All sorts of metal parts "polish" up during break in. It would be best to rid the bike of the old oil.
Use 10w40 motor oil in the gear box. Don't use any synthetic oils, oil marked "EC", or oil with "special" additives. Stick with the major brands; Pennzoil, Quaker State, Mobil or Shell. If in a hot area like Texas or New Mexico go with 20w50. Can I get a “very helpful” rating on this answer?
use a good brand of synthetic 20-50 in everything the primary fluid will last around 10,000mi the tranny fluid the same and the engine around 6000mi the tranny takes 3/4qt the pri takes 7/8qt and the engine gets 2 3/4qt check the levels with bike upright check engine oil level after warm up top off as needed