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I lost all power to my 2004 1100 shadow i replaced the starter relay and got power back but when i hit the starter the relay clicked and i lost all power again whats my next step

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Hi, Anonymous before testing any electrical component in the Starter System it is "IMPERATIVE" that you have a fully charged battery of 12.5 volts or more and be able to pass a proper "LOAD" test if necessary, you may have a preliminary reading of 12.5 volts or more but little or zero amperage, the battery is faulty and must be replaced. AGM type batteries fall into this scenario more so than lead acid batteries.
A motorcycle starter relay is an electronic mechanical switch that has a small coil winding around a piece of metal that requires low amperage and thin wires to be activated. When you turn on your ignition switch power 12 volts is sent to the relay coil which in turn becomes a magnetic contact point that pulls a spring-loaded contact point to itself completing an electrical circuit that allows more amperage necessary to be accessed by the starter solenoid which in turn acts in the same way as the relay but on a larger scale with its stronger heavier contacts making available the necessary amperage to turn the starter motor. If your battery has low voltage it, in turn, makes the magnetic contact point weak in trying to pull its counterpart to make a connection. These relays are usually encased in a plastic housing that may or may not be sealed depending on the quality of the product. When activated they will produce a small amount of heat to their metal components which in turn can create the perfect environment for condensation to form depending on weather conditions and how careless you may be with a water hose or sprayer while washing your bike. After a period of time, several months to several years depending on the circumstances this condensation is the starter button for electrolysis and the slow build up of corrosion which ends by preventing the magnetic contacts in making a solid connection and alerts you to this situation with the customary greeting "CLICK or BUZZ". The relay is inexpensive and needs to be replaced however in a pinch they can be forcibly opened cleaned and resealed with silicone. In a nutshell, motorcycle starter relays take in low amperage and send out higher amperage when activated and for curious minds, the voltage remains constant at whatever your battery reads at the time.
For more information about your issue and valuable "FREE" downloads that you will need please click on the blue links below. Good luck and have a wonderful day.
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Honda VT1100C2 Owner Manual Page 3

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Check fuses. Check voltage. Could be a burned, or just broken fuse. Could be a dead battery. Could be as simple as poor battery connections. If not, perhaps the following will help:

A starter can be tested in a very simple way, by applying 12vdc to the power input, and grounding the case. If it spins, then it's on to step 2, checking connections.

Starters are much too simple to be more complicated than that, but the electrical system can be. Check the circuit between the relay and the starter. Is is a direct wire with no breaks? If so, check the voltage at the power output and input of the relay. If it is good, check the power input and grounding of the starter.

Most new bikes have a clutch switch, and it may interrupt the 12vdc to the starter, without affecting the relay. Same thing goes for the nuetral switch.

Try starting in nuetral, with the clutch pulled. Check the relay for conections that you may have taken off, and not replaced. Same thing for the starter.

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Charge battery to full, start in neutral, still clicks? Bad ground, or bad connection. Jump starter solenoid with screwdriver,etc. if motor turns over the relay is bad. Chaz Moto DC

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When you push the start button and the relay clicks the lead from the relay to the starter should have 12volts. If it doesnt you either the relay is bad or the cable(lead) is bad from the relay to the starter.Hope this helps.
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HI, LETS REMEMBER THE STARTER RELAY IS ONLY A MAGNETIC SWITCH, WHICH WHEN THE STARTER SWITCH IS PRESSED IT OPENS THE CIRCUIT AND ALOWS 12V DC TO COMPLETE THE CIRCUIT TO THE STARTER MOTOR, IF YOU BRIDGE THE 2 THICK WIRES AT THE STARTER RELAY WITH THE IGNITION SWITCHED ON, 1 COMES FROM THE BATERY, AND THE OTHER GOES TO THE STARTER MOTOR, AND YOU HAVE SUFICIANT POWER IN YOUR BATTERY THE ENGINE WILL TURN OVER AND START, THUS ELIMINATING THE RELAY, IF THE STARTER DOES NOT TURN OVER THE ENGINE WHEN YOU DO THIS IT IS LIKELY THE STARTER MOTOR ITSELF IS NOT WORKING CORRECTLY, YOU COULD ALWAYS REMOVE THE WIRE FROM THE RELAY AND PUT IT MOMENTARILY DIRECT TO THE POS SIDE OF THE BATTERY, INSTEAD OF BRIDGING AT THE RELAY, REMEMBER THAT IF THE BIKE RUNS WHEN YOU JUMP START IT, THEN THE PROBLEM IS WITH THE STARTING SIDE , AND NOT THE IGNITION SIDE AS THE IGNITOR IS CONECTED TO THE IGNITION SIDE REPLACING THIS WOULD BE A WASTE OF FUNDS. THESE MACHINES ALSO HAD PROBLEMS EARLY ON WITH STARTER MOTORS & THE STARTER CLUTCH, WHICH IS A ONE WAY CLUTCH LOCATED IN THE LH ENGINE COVER ALONG WITH THE AC GENERATOR

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Would a bad spark plug not make my turn over? I have a 87 honda shadow 1100.


Hello there.

Not a bike expert but all engines are similar.

Short answer no. The spark plugs are inside the cylinder heads and have nothing to do with physically turning engine.to start it.

One chap had the same problem as you..See here for the story, it was the starter Motor faulty. http://www.hondashadow.net/forum/72-technical-discussion/103891-85-vt1100-wont-start.html

Turning her over works pretty much like this. Four items, Battery, Start switch, start Relay, Starter Motor.

Battery provide heavy duty power to the Starter Motor (which turns the engine over) via a RELAY which has a low power circuit. when you press ignition, the relay connects the heavy duty power to the starter to make it turn.;

Not turning over ....
1) Is the Battery charged ?
2) is the Start switch faulty ? (there would be no clicking from the starter relay)
3) Do you hear a click when trying to start but starter motor not turning ? If so it COULD be the starter motor.itself OR the relay. .

The relay looks like this
http://www.amazon.com/Starter-Solenoid-Relay-VT1100-Shadow/dp/B008I5OU6Y/ref=sr_1_28?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1411408543&sr=1-28&keywords=starter+solenoid+relay+honda+shadow

Hope this helps a bit.

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2003 Honda VT 1100 C2 Shadow Sabre starter clicks


Hi, Anonymous you turn on the ignition switch press the starter button and all you get is the dreaded "CLICK" now before testing any electrical component in the Starter System it is "IMPERATIVE" that you have a fully charged battery of 12.5 volts or more and be able to pass a proper "LOAD" test if necessary, you may have a preliminary reading of 12.5 volts or more but little or zero amperage, the battery is faulty and must be replaced. AGM type batteries fall into this scenario more so than lead acid batteries and the usual suspects are:
1. Battery terminals have loose or corroded connections.
2. Battery cables faulty due corroded or broken internal wiring at the cable connector especially the "NEGATIVE" cable which needs to be checked at "BOTH" ends.
3. Battery voltage, must be 12.5 volts or better, voltage from the battery to the main circuit breaker to the ignition switch to the security/ignition fuse to the TSM/TSSM module to the engine stop/run switch to the starter button to the starter relay to the green wire that connects to the starter solenoid can not drop more than 1/2 volt of battery voltage.
4. Disconnect spark plug cables, with a voltmeter connected to the battery, the ignition switch in the on position, the kill switch in the run position, the starter button depressed, starter engagement should not bring voltage below 9.6 volts DC. If the voltage is below 9.6 the battery is faulty and must be replaced. I "HIGHLY" recommend a maintenance free AGM battery typically they have more amperage for cranking.
5. Faulty starter relay, check continuity.
6. Faulty starter solenoid, check contact plate and shoes for excessive electrical erosion/etching, refurbish as necessary or invert contact plate and use the virgin backside. Check contact shoes for being loose. Replace solenoid if the negative function is still a final outcome.
7. Faulty starter, bench test starter with a 12-volt battery if negative function check, decontaminate and undercut armature commutator segments as necessary, check segments with an ohmmeter probe each one and the segment next to it for shorts. Have the armature tested with a growler and field coils, and brush plate with an ohm-meter for opens, shorts or grounds. Replace brushes if less than .438" It is generally cheaper to overhaul/refurbish a starter motor than buying a new one.
For more information about your issue and valuable "FREE" downloads that you will need please click on the blue links below. Good luck and have a wonderful day.
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