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1996 harley softail classic

Hello my brothers, my primary is leaking from in between it and the crankcase, also my oil tank keeps filling up. is there a seal in between the primary and the crankcase that may have gone bad or is it something worse? the bike has 135,000 miles on it. thanks, keith

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The primary case o ring needs replacing and the cause of you oil tank filling is a pos pressure from the primary causing back pressure in the main oil pressure this needs to be fixed ASAP because this will be starving your engine of oil under running condition

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    Any time just keep on ridding

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    Mike Steele Sep 04, 2016

    how do you access the o ring?

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There's an o-ring between the inner primary and the crankcase, probably bad.

Posted on May 14, 2014

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    keith j kemper May 15, 2014

    Thanks for the response Strech

  • Dwayne Eversole Jul 13, 2017

    Guys I have a 96 fatboy just took the primary case off the lip on the motor where the ring is is cracked a little should I be sweatin??

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Hey guys I have a 96 fatboy softail I took my primary off today because some of the inner primary bolts were loose but after I took it all off right on the lip of the motor where the o ring goes is cracked about half way around should I panic!!!!

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I would go ahead and replace the shifter seal,and the main transmission shaft seal while your there. Good chance that both of them are leaking as well.......

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