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Problem with transmission? 1993 Honda Shadow VT600

I just purchased a used 93 vt600 as a starter bike. It has approx 41K miles on it (but I got it really reasonable). Anyway, it seems that there may be a problem with second gear although the guy who sold it to me said its just a really short gear. It has a jerking motion if you don't almost immediately shift it into third. It almost seems as if it very quickly slips out of gear and then right back in. Has anyone else ever experienced anything like that or know what it might be?

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  • cauthenc Jun 19, 2009

    Curious... this only does it in second gear... 1st, 3rd and 4th are smooth. could it be anything anysimpler?

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A couple of things can come into play here. First, there is no such thing as a "short gear". That was B.S. just to sell the bike. The bike could have a bent shift fork that doesn't quite move the slider all the way over for a full gear engagement. The problem could also be a couple of broken teeth on the meshing of second gear. The most likely is a bent shift fork. It really doesn't matter much which problem it is because the repair procedure is the same. Did I mention that it is going to cost around $1500.00 to fix it?

The entire engine comes out of the frame and gets completely torn down. The top end comes off, the case covers come off, the clutch, shift shaft, kick starter, flywheel and electrics all come off. Then the case is split to gain access to the gears and shift drum. The gears and shift drum now get removed and now the bent fork can be replaced or any gears needing replacement. Replace the broken gear and also any gear the broken gear meshes with.

I should also mention another problem. Most dealers will not work on bikes over 10 years old and most not longer have the parts in inventory. Talk with a dealer's mechanics and ask if they do repairs outside of the shop or who they reccommend to do the repair. Sorry for having to give you the bad news. Who ever sold the bike to you, a novice rider getting his first bike, should be addressed for a refund, (which he is not likely to do), or at least 1/2 the repair cost, (which he is also unlikely to do).
Go to the site below where you can see a parts diagram for your specific bike. You will select the actual brand, year, model, etc., once you go to the site. Part numbers and prices are also shown. You can order parts from this site. In the event no price is shown on a particular part, the part is not in stock. www.babbittsonline.com/pages/parts/viewbybrandand/parts.aspx

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  • tombones Jun 19, 2009

    Wish I were there to experience the problem first hand. I am in Dallas, TX.. There is only one other possibility, and it is almost free to fix. Go to the Babbitt's web site, find your bike, and look at the "SHIFT DRUM" tab. If the stopper wheel arm is loose it could allow the shift arm to pull the cam plate incorrectly. If the arm is okay and the spring #8 is good, then one of the pins could be bent or missing. Is the cam plate on tight? Check the arm spring on the shift shaft. Most of this stuff is behind the clutch. But I don't really expect these things to be the problem.



  • tombones Jun 19, 2009

    Here is the transmission. The slider gears move left and right on the gear shaft and have "Dogs" on both sides of the slider that engage into holes drilled into the driven gears. If a fork is bent then the slider can not fully engage the gear you are shifting to.



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