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Starter motor turn but wont engage

I have removed the starter motor, it has a planetary gear system, all is fine, brush's are good and starter turns freely, how does the bendix work, the small gear at the end of the shaft only has very small movement so I can only think the engagement occurs in the crankcase ?
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  • sparkbrown May 26, 2009

    Many Thanks

    My nightmare come true, I will get a puller and a service book, this bike has been trouble free sice I bought it.

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It has a starter clutch on the fly wheel. You will need to remove the left side case cove to access it. You will need to pull the flywheel with a puller as the starter clutch is behind the flywheel

Posted on May 25, 2009

  • Jeff Policky
    Jeff Policky May 25, 2009

    It has a starter clutch on the fly wheel. You will need to remove the left side case cove to access it. You will need to pull the flywheel with a puller as the starter clutch is behind the flywheel

  • cdemelenne
    cdemelenne Dec 17, 2012

    have removed fly wheel. starter clutch not engageing. what can cause the problem?

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