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Can an 87 fxrs be kick started?

At a certain point HD changed ignitions to fire on the second rather than the first compression stroke. HDs with that ignition cannot be kick started. Does an 87 FXRS have the newer ignition or does it have the previous one, which fires on the first compression stroke, and can therefore be started with A kick starter

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I've never heard such a thing...

But you have to have a kick starter first and I don't recall 87's having one. Correct me if I'm wrong or if the trans has been changed out then yes you could have one. But I've never heard of Harley's starting on the second compression stroke. Plus the modern after market ignition systems used without kick start transmissions are the same ones used with custom scoots that have a modern trans with the old look of the kick starter... Although with these high compression engines, compression releases are common place because neither the starter or kick starter could crank one without...

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  • Terrence MacArthur Jan 06, 2014

    Unless I'm mistaken. and I'm

  • Terrence MacArthur Jan 06, 2014

    OOPS!! Unless I'm mistaken, and I'm pretty sure I'm not, Current HDs, now all with Electronic fuel injection and totally computer controlles engines, start on the second compression stroke, supposedly to prevent a too soon ignition that could screw up the starter. In any case, I do know that anyone who put a kick start on a newer (like 200 or newer) HD has had to change the ignition system. My '85 FXEF had the old 4 speed, in '86 they went to the 5 spd, which is what my '87 has. I remember, a while back, looking for a kick start for a 5 spd., amd they are available. The quesrtion is whether it will start the bike without having to fool around with a new ignition system.

  • Terrence MacArthur Jan 06, 2014

    I just can't type. Make that a 2000 or newer. I think maybe Fred Flintstone had a 200 HD, with a foot accelerated start, like his car.



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