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Electrical short/fault Bike has power until break handle is depressed prior to firing starter button.

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Beings you state the electrical problem is when you hit the brake, I'd say the short is in that system.
Maybe a bad brake light switch, or a wire coming off of it.

Posted on Dec 29, 2013

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SOURCE: Electrical, motorcycle, slap side to make starter work

Sounds like a loose wire in the battery box somewhere. Or even under the seat is where the wires run after leaving the battery box.

Posted on Oct 03, 2009

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SOURCE: Bike won't start/clicking coming from starter relay

Have you tried charging the battery or jumpstarting it with another battery?

Posted on Apr 13, 2009

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SOURCE: 1999 sporster 1200 starting prolem

sounds like starter is pullin' alot of juice away from the ignition..this can also happen if your battery is less than optimal...to test this try jumpstarting with donor vehicles engine NOT running...if she fires right up then try charging your battery fully and if still won't handle it, time for a new battery...good luck to you friend...Tim

Posted on Jun 06, 2009

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SOURCE: Cannot diagnose source of electrical fault

TRY A TO BYPASS ALL SYSTEMS WITH A POSITIVE LEAD SHOULD WORK BUT YOU NEED AT LEAST 9VOLTS TO GET THE IGNITER TO EVEN THINK ABOUT LETTING THE COILS HAVE ANY POWER TO EXPLODE THE GAP POINT OF YOU'RE SPARK PLUGS SO GOOD LUCK

Posted on Jun 22, 2009

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SOURCE: Fault with electric start on my Suzuki GSF 250 Bandit

Check that the clutch is in, kick stand up, and neutral light ablaze. Then try your start button. When you had it running and hit the button, the starter engaged at a slower speed then the bike engine was turning, which led to the stall. The stall means your starter works. If the starter works when the engine is running then it is wiring. Check your kick stand wiring along with the clutch wires which plug in on the handlle bar or where the clutch cable enters the engine.

Posted on Oct 23, 2009

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