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Transmission problems Stock 95 softail 5 speed shifts into every gear but fourth

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Worn thrust bearing and shafts. Strip the gear box, fit new thrust bearing shims and selector arm. Adjust as required. Reassemble and top up with fresh oil.

Posted on Oct 25, 2013

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SOURCE: stiff shifting into second gear

Yes, too much slack can cause the problem. Remove the slack by adjusting the cable at both ends if needed. Here's the deal, if the clutch does not work fully, the engine is still applying pressure to the driven gear. The pressure on the gear does not let the shifter move freely.
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Try this little test > on a clear road shift from 2nd to 3rd using the clutch but don't let off the gas when you shift. If the motor reved up when you shifted then the clutch was doing its' part at least a bit. Now do the same process but this time do not use the clutch at all. Instead, let off the gas when you shift. Letting off the gas lessens the drive pressure on the gears and will allow the shifter to better do its' part. Not using the clutch is commonly referred to a "power shifting ". If out on the road and the clutch cable breaks, this is a way to keep going for a bit.
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As to worn dogs and shift forks, your bike is pretty new so I doubt wear is a problem. A bent shift fork is a possibility but since you have a funky clutch cable I suggest we keep it simple and start there.

Posted on Mar 17, 2009

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SOURCE: 1988 harley davidson softail 5 speed will only

Happens all the time, you shifter pawl return spring is broken. If you will put the transmission in neutral and lift or push down on the shift lever, you'll notice that the lever doesn't want to return to the "center position" on it's own. This is because the spring that brings the shifter back to the "center position" after a gear shift is broken. It is also not advisable to ride the bike until this is repaired. The broken end of the spring has been known to get caught up in the gears and actually bust the transmission cases in addition to damaging those gears.

This is not a simple repair job in the fact that all the "guts" have to come out of the transmission. The shifter pawl shaft will not come out of the transmission case with the gears on their shafts left inside the case.

If you want more detail, drop me a line at wd4ity@bellsouth.net

Posted on Oct 26, 2009

wd4ity
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SOURCE: The bike is a 2006

It sounds like a broken shifter pawl spring. This part is inside the transmission and requires a teardown of the transmission. Not a simple job. Harley was having problems with them in the 5- speed transmission back in the '90's but I thought they had gotten that problem solved. There never was a recall as far as I know but I have replaced quite a few shifter pawl shafts. The spring is what returns the shifter back to it's "center" position between shifts. With the transmission in neutral, engine off, use your hand to gently push the shifter down to just before it shifts the transmission. Then let go of the shifter and see if returns back to the "center" position. Make sure the shifter or the shifter rod is not binding in any manner. If it will not return to center, I think this is your problem.

Good Luck
Steve

Posted on May 17, 2011

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My 2005 Pontiac Bonneville GXP will not shift into 4th gear I was to it was a fourth gear band but is that the only problem that will cause itI'notto shift into 4th gear


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DEFINITION: A large engine RPM increase is noted in fourth gear, Drive range, with little or no vehicle forward speed increase. First, second, and third gear operation are normal. Shifts into fourth gear are soft or do not occur. Fourth gear ratio is 0.705:1.

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Low transmission main line pressure

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• The oil filter seal assembly (101) is missing or is damaged.

Control Valve Body Assembly
• The 3-4 shift valve (362) or the 4-3 manual downshift valve (360) is stuck or binding.
• Debris is found in the passages of the control valve body (301) or of the control valve body spacer plate and gasket assembly (396)

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Driven Sprocket Support Assembly
A plugged third clutch oil passage in the driven sprocket support assembly (609)

Fourth Clutch Assembly
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I have a 95 softail stock transmission. It shifts into all gears but fourth.


Well, I think that you will need to take apart the gear box and check for the drum gear shift!

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I have a 1995 Buick Century 6 cyl. The transmission shifts smoothly and into 4th gear but when I get to about 55 mph it shifts back into 3rd gear by itself and won't go back into 4th gear. What is...


Fourth gear in your vehicle doesn't exist. What feels like a fourth gear is the torque converter locking up. The lockup lockup is controlled by a solenoid in the side pan of the transmission, and the solenoid is controlled by the ECM (electronic control module) in response to several pressure, temperature and speed sensors etc. To determine which component is the problem you'll need a professional transmission mechanic with the proper diagnostic equipment.

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My 2000 Sephia will only shift gears manually from 1,2, then to drive. I get a code PO734. How do I fix and or slove this problem?


This is what your codes mean:

Trouble Code-P0734 (A/T Additional Gear Ratio Error In Fourth Gear)


Trouble Code Conditions:
Vehicle driven to a speed of 4-37 mph at more than 500 rpm, gear selector in 4th Gear in Drive, and the PCM detected too much difference in the engine speed and output shaft speed.
Possible Causes:
  • Customer may complain of intermittent 4th gear operation
  • O/D and 2/4 pressures less than 75 psi
  • O/D or 2/4 clutch volume indexes out of specification
  • O/D accumulator seals are damaged
  • Transmission enters "limp in" mode running in 4th gear

Trouble Code-P0735 (A/T Gear Ratio Error Fourth Prime)

Trouble Code Conditions:
Vehicle driven any forward Gear, and the TCM detected the ratio of the Input speed to the Output Speed did not match the current Gear Ratio (this test can take up to 5 minutes).
Possible Causes:
  • Related Gear Ratio trouble codes may be stored (note that some of these Gear Ratio trouble codes may be intermittent)
  • Transmission has internal problems or damage present
You have a transmission problem.Hope this helps, James Booth

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The bike is a 2006 Softail Deluxe. When shifting through the gears the shift lever won't return to the standard position. You have to use your foot to bring in position to shift again. Could this be a...


It sounds like a broken shifter pawl spring. This part is inside the transmission and requires a teardown of the transmission. Not a simple job. Harley was having problems with them in the 5- speed transmission back in the '90's but I thought they had gotten that problem solved. There never was a recall as far as I know but I have replaced quite a few shifter pawl shafts. The spring is what returns the shifter back to it's "center" position between shifts. With the transmission in neutral, engine off, use your hand to gently push the shifter down to just before it shifts the transmission. Then let go of the shifter and see if returns back to the "center" position. Make sure the shifter or the shifter rod is not binding in any manner. If it will not return to center, I think this is your problem.

Good Luck
Steve

May 17, 2011 | 2005 Harley Davidson FLSTN- FLSTNI Softail...

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Code po734, po735


This is what your codes mean:

Trouble Code-P0734 (A/T Additional Gear Ratio Error In Fourth Gear)


Trouble Code Conditions:
Vehicle driven to a speed of 4-37 mph at more than 500 rpm, gear selector in 4th Gear in Drive, and the PCM detected too much difference in the engine speed and output shaft speed.

Possible Causes:

  • Customer may complain of intermittent 4th gear operation
  • O/D and 2/4 pressures less than 75 psi
  • O/D or 2/4 clutch volume indexes out of specification
  • O/D accumulator seals are damaged
  • Transmission enters "limp in" mode running in 4th gear

Trouble Code-P0735 (A/T Gear Ratio Error Fourth Prime)

Trouble Code Conditions:
Vehicle driven any forward Gear, and the TCM detected the ratio of the Input speed to the Output Speed did not match the current Gear Ratio (this test can take up to 5 minutes).

Possible Causes:

  • Related Gear Ratio trouble codes may be stored (note that some of these Gear Ratio trouble codes may be intermittent)
  • Transmission has internal problems or damage present
You have a transmission problem.

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1995 GMC Surburban speedometer and tacometer work and than stop when not working will not shift out of 1st gear.


It could be a couple of differant things its a 95 so it would have some ware in the shift mechanisum witch you look at the interlock switch. That is connected to the transmission through the shift cable on the drivers side of the transmission and moves every time you move the coloum shift lever. Or it could have something to do with the vehicle speed sensor mounted on the tail stock of the tranamission witch produces a referance voltage of about 5 volts AC for the VCM . Or it could just be a bad connection in that cirrcuit for depending if you have a digital speedometer and tach. I would check the interlock switch first the shifter is binding and its a ware part . Good luck

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Gear Ratio (1): 10.11
Gear Ratio (2): 6.96
Gear Ratio (3): 4.95
Gear Ratio (4): 3.86
Gear Ratio (5): 3.15

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Won't shift into 3rd,4th,and fifth


I thought I just answered this question somewhere but I'll answer it again. This is a common problem on the 5-speed transmission.

It sounds like your shifter pawl return spring is broken inside the transmission. With your bike in neutral, lift up or push down on the shifter like you are going to shift gears. Feel the amount of spring tension that is supposed to return the shifter to the "center position" in preparation for the next shift. If the shifter does not return to center like it's supposed to, this is indeed your problem. You can check to see if the shift lever back at the transmission is loose but usually this in not the case.

This is a very complicated procedure to repair requiring the removal of all the "guts" in the transmission. Luckily, on the 5-speed transmission, both shafts with their gears come out with the trap door of the transmission. The problem is all the other stuff you have to take off the bike to get to this point. Unless you're absolutely sure this is the problem and unless you're a very experienced mechanic with some specialized tools, this is a job best left to the dealership mechanics.

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